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Saudi Hypocrisy

Astonishing hypocrisy! Saudi and its affiliates demand end to support of terrorism while they themselves are some of its largest funders. Their list of demands, as reported in the Guardian, should be translated as:
1) Curb ties with Iran = No talking to Shia Moslems.

2) Sever all ties to terror organisations = Declare Moslem Brotherhood terrorist who we find threatening internally and only Saudi should decide which terror organisations get funded. Not you

3) Shut down al-Jazeera = We don’t allow press freedom you can’t have it either. Especially one that criticises us. Shut down what is, for all its significant faults, one of the best media outlets in the world.

4) Shut down all other media Qatar funds. = Only Saudi propaganda allowed. al-Jazeera was far too willing to report government repression during the Arab Spring. So close down all non Saudi controlled media.

5) Close down Turkish military bases in Qatar. = Qatar isn’t allowed its own diplomatic sovereignty.

6) Stop funding anyone Saudi calls a terrorist = Stop funding anyone who opposes Saudi or other undemocratic regimes in the ME. No democratic dissent allowed.

7) Handover terrorist figure = Hand over to us all dissidents we want to imprison or behead.

8) Stop interfering in other countries affairs. = Hand over people we don’t like that have taken refuge in Qatar. We do the interfering (see this list of demands) not you.

9 -12) Make yourself a vassal state of Saudi, pay us money, let us control your treasury and foreign policy and agree to all this NOW. Or else. Saudi, its minions, the US and Israel will try to paint you as part of a new axis of evil.

Oh and by the way oil rules! Not the gas you and Iran want to sell!

The Great Gas War is gathering towards a major escalation. The Northern Front in Ukraine has gone quiet. Or at least unreported. But its Southern Front from Syria to Yemen, Turkey to Iran is hotting up.

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40 Responses to Saudi Hypocrisy

  1. Roger Lewis June 23, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

    For those of you that want to interact with David Live on Line please sign up to Davids Political Campaigning Web Site.
    Here is a Link to the Live Streaming Web Page.

    http://davidmalonegreenpartycandidate.weebly.com/live-streaming-event-page.html

    We did a Pilot episode on Wednesday Night which went well, Still editing down the footage.
    We should be able to Get the Broadband Overhead to a level that minimises the signal dropouts in future Events.

    If you sign up to Davids Reverb Nation Page as well you can find links to Davids Documentary Work, we hope to do some Live Screenings and Q&A sessions for the Latest Documentary, Why are we here.

    https://www.reverbnation.com/malone4leader

    • Phil June 23, 2017 at 7:50 pm #

      I’ve been telling him for years there was money to be made in the Live Cam game…

  2. bill40 June 23, 2017 at 11:25 pm #

    Let us hope this is the start of more regular post from David, loved the interview with Roger and the first post on it is here https://bill40.wordpress.com/2017/06/23/david-malone-ungarbled-i-hope-pt-1 or click my name to there.

    I’m hoping to post daily so would welcome everyone back there for all the latest on everything. Not a patch on Golem yet but with your input it could be.

    Welcome back David, you have been missed!

  3. MSimon June 24, 2017 at 2:03 am #

    Why is there no reporting of how the proposed Israeli-Europe gas pipeline is affecting Syrian politics?

    Article writers don’t seem to notice. And neither do commenters.

    I have a few words. http://classicalvalues.com/2017/06/its-a-gas/

    • Roger Lewis June 24, 2017 at 7:30 am #

      https://www.popuparchive.com/collections/1673/items/139755

      It’s all Gas Gas Gas (not an Oil Pipedream) – David Malone on Syria
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      To Listen Please Click on ‘pod’ Icon above David Malone is a UK investigative financial reporter, the author of ‘The Debt Generation’ and a BBC filmmaker. In this interview for KGNU’s ‘It’s The Economy’, he discusses here with Claudia Cragg the always especially knotty subject of geopolitics. As in a super-fantastic War of the Worlds, in his opinion, Malone says the French are now teaming up with Qatar versus The House of Saud. This, he believes is to free themselves from the Russian dominance in natural gas. Furthermore, you’ll hear him argue that powers outside Syria might even be content to have permanent multi-factional revolutionary foment in the region so nobody ever gets ultimate contol, leaving those with commercial interests free to roam. It’s not’ all about NOT oil, he says, but gas gas gas.

      This is an Interview David Did back in 2013 which covers the geopolitics of Syrian Gas and Ukraine Gas Pipeline politics.

  4. Phil June 24, 2017 at 2:52 am #

    Your thoughts would be welcome on what’s next for the Religion of Peace within this framework

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/saudi-security-forces-foil-suicide-bomb-attack-meccas-grand/

  5. steviefinn June 25, 2017 at 2:00 pm #

    A very useful presentation & for me spending ( albeit not live ) part of my Sunday morning in your virtual company, served as top up or an update on the thinking on important issues. Perhaps it could be something that would work on a regular basis that reacts to current issues……keeping the ball rolling….easy for me to say of course from my spectator position on a comfy sofa. Might it take the pressure off writing articles, but keep the heart of this place pumping ?

    The part on the polarisation of opinion struck the biggest chord for me, especially due to Brexit. The Lefty Remainers now appear to totally turn a blind eye to the EU’s faults, although you occasionally get a mealy mouthed ” It’s not perfect ” & it could be reformed from within. I cannot understand how you can cure a patient without taking a good hard look at what is wrong with him / her. On it’s own, a critical examination of Macron’s intentions would be enough. The other side dug in across no man’s land of course have totally ignored the problems in the form of economic realities.

    I am glad that it was pointed out that the famed progressive elements of the EU are fast becoming a thing of the past.

    The Green party’s ” Good Morning Britain ” tactics do not appear to have worked all that well & it seems to me that they are on the wrong tack & in reality with the present electoral system are forever doomed to be at the mercy from the swell of the 2 major parties. Wouldn’t it be better if they started asking searching questions in economic terms as to the why of the mess we are in ? The sort of people who they could attract might sit up & take notice if they had a chance to shift away from the tired old & destructive narratives. The way they act at the moment has me believing that if they were to become a part of a coalition, it could be a repeat of how the Irish Green Party actually assisted in the financial takeover of Ireland under Fianna Fail & due to that like those other sellouts, the Irish Labour Party, they are now nothing more than dead ducks.

    As Carney now appears to be doing his best to make his prediction that Brexit will be a disaster come true – how about the question of BOE independence ? Isn’t it likely that his interests will be in common with his potential future employers & if a radical government were to actually take up the reins, isn’t it likely that as has happened in the past there will be a host of financial harpies sent to try & make sure that nothing works to their dissatisfaction ?

    Anyway thank you both for the breakfast for thought – here is IMO a good roundup of the causes & history of that particular powder keg :

    http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19402:Historic-Rivalry-for-Regional-Dominance-at-the-Root-of-Saudi-Qatar-Crisis

  6. bill40 June 26, 2017 at 11:35 am #

    Part two of my blog on David’s interview now posted and I do hope Stevie Finn drops in, be great tpo see you there. It’s a very new blog so all help with getting it shared very much appreciated.
    #
    https://bill40.wordpress.com/2017/06/25/malone-ungarbled-pt-2

  7. Phil June 27, 2017 at 11:40 pm #

    Off topic but not unrelated: hypocrisy and the reality (or lack of) behind political positions

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-merchandising-of-virtue-b548762658f0

  8. Roger Lewis June 28, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

    I have made a couple of Social Media widgets for Davids Profile raising purposes If you can support the Thunderclap that would be incredibly helpful.
    https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/58962-david-malone-a-radical-green

    And I have made this fun, David Malone’s Magic Money Tree Quiz, the answers are linked back to Davids Web site with a Contact Form if you wish to be on Davids Mailing List.

    David is Keen to get back to some regular blogging, I reckon if we can show some love by getting the View Counters on the Politics Site and Magic Money Quiz Poll Snack up It will be easier to chivvy our great sage to take up his quill in greater earnest!

    http://snack.to/q7t8gi3c

    • bill40 June 29, 2017 at 9:47 pm #

      Please don’t forget that everybody is welcome over at the bill40 blog, daily posts and a newsfeed to boot. It would be great to get the old gang back together. https://bill40.wordpress.com/2017/06/29/public-sector-pay-are-they-worth-it

      • Roger Lewis July 2, 2017 at 4:50 am #

        It’s a nice refreshing read over at your Blog Bill, It would be nice to have the old cafe society vibe going across there. Meanwhile more widgets.
        I particularly like the Chat Bot I have embedded on Davids Campaign Site. Funnily enough, the Liars Lexicon will be added into its memory today

        http://rebot.me/roger-lewis
        I Have been programming a Chat Bot for Davids website, The Bot learns in the sense that questions that do not generate a specific answer are placed in a file to which a specific answer can be assigned. The sensitivity to question precision is high so I am developing the bot so that popular questions are reduced down to their variant and smaller forms generating a general answer for narrow questions which are generated out of the broader programme questions. I have used various public media to generate the base Chatbot. I used the Reddit Leadership question and answer for the bulk of the initial content. http://davidmalonegreenpartycandidate.weebly.com/membership-page.html The Bot is living on a New Membership page on the Website, It pops up when clicked. Please play with it and ask as many questions in as many ways as you like so I can add the Answers to the data base and improve the Functionality. The Bot is a learning bot in one sense but not fully automated. AI is one of my areas of interest in computing so I will endeavour to make this work in a more intuitive way.
        I have started the process with an already online chatbot, after playing with several this was the one I thought had the best possibilities for a quick implementation on Davids Web site.

        http://davidmalonegreenpartycandidate.weebly.com/malone-101-on-policy.html

        I Made these interactive Quizzes based upon the Positive Money Quiz By David Faraday

        https://www.quiz-maker.com/QYMG3AR

        and the money creation Survey of MP´s https://www.quiz-maker.com/Q4FBT85 The degree of ignorance paraded constantly since the General Election and during by Both Tory and Labour MP´s is staggering.
        What are we to do with the Wilful ignorance of the political, Media and Economics So called Elites. The Poll Snack Quiz for the MP survey I made about 4 days ago and it has been taken 25,000 times, Some people are obviously interested. The quizzes are embeddable I made them for David Malone’s Web Site. He is trying to get Monetary reform back into the Green Party Manifesto 2015´s EC661 was dropped in the 2017 manifesto. http://davidmalonegreenpartycandidate.weebly.com/magic-money-quiz-answers-and-contact-form.html The Poll Snack Quiz is a drop down menu on the home page. Let me know is you want me to email you HTML or JavaScript to embed the quizzes on your own Blogs or websites. rogerglewis13@gmail.com

  9. Phil June 30, 2017 at 12:02 am #

    Currently teaching a Syrian student in his late 40s. Really doesn’t like Iran and their plans for Syria and the Middle East. Doesn’t like any of those interfering but really objects to Iran.

    Just thought I’d pass that on.

    • Roger Lewis July 2, 2017 at 4:56 am #

      Was it a sectarian objection Phil. Iran is Shia and Sunnis consider Shias to be heretics. The division is very similar actually to the Orthodox Churches Split from the Catholic Church of Rome. Shias Believe their 12 Immans and their descendants to be Infallible whereas Sunnis Believe that only God Can be Infallible. The Orthodox/Holly See split is about Infallibility and Subsidiarity.

  10. Bill Casso July 1, 2017 at 1:14 am #

    I agree that the Saudi’s are hypocritical however they are not the critical problem in the middle east. For some reason natural resources seem to be believed by many to be the root cause of the tensions in the middle east and theological differences are used for inflaming these tensions. Iran has stated that they intend to wipe out Israel and I for one believe them. Having visited Iran and have found the people to be welcoming it saddens me to think than in a few years if this trajectory is not changed most of them will be dead. Europe (if it survives) will have the mother of all immigration problems when this next middle east war breaks out.

    On the subject of Gas do your realize that UAE and Kuwait import LNG from the US?
    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_expc_s1_a.htm

    • steviefinn July 1, 2017 at 11:40 am #

      If you are going to talk about almost everyone being dead, then you might want to take it a step further & add the rest of us, as Russia has Iran’s back as I think does China & I cannot see that changing as it appears that Putin has drawn a red line across Syria. The Saudi regime is not exactly in a strong position both economically & politically & nestling up to Israel is unlikely to help the latter in a country which has a rather unhappy population with it seems it’s own quite substantial support for the Muslim brotherhood.

      If you are going to talk about hatred for others then imagine a bunch of people all together in a room holding at the ready a cocked & loaded pistol – there is no love lost between any of them & as far as I am concerned they are all in terms of their governments all as bad as each other – the various people’s are as usual whatever their personal opinions, just hostages to hell.

      • steviefinn July 1, 2017 at 2:25 pm #

        Whitehouse farce :

        ” I agree that the Saudis have been nothing but trouble, and the war on Yemen is proof of that, but the U.S. has consistently rewarded and encouraged that troublesome behavior for years and has specifically aided and abetted the disastrous campaign in Yemen that the retired officer rightly calls a “stain.” My point here is that the “trouble” caused by the Saudis has been backed to the hilt by the U.S. under both the Obama and Trump administrations, and until the U.S. starts taking a consistent position of refusing to enable their reckless behavior our support for them contributes significantly to the region’s wars and crises. As long as the Saudis and their allies know that they have Trump in their corner, that isn’t going to change “.

        http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-qatar-crisis-and-the-
        trump-administrations-foreign-policy-dysfunction/

        More Pressitution :

        ” In fact, the US threats increase, rather than reduce, the chances of a new chemical weapons attack. Other, anti-Assad actors now have a strong incentive to use chemical weapons in false-flag operation to implicate Assad, knowing that the US has committed itself to intervention. On any reading, the US statements were reckless – or malicious – in the extreme and likely to bring about the exact opposite of what they were supposed to achieve ”

        https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/30/after-hersh-investigation-media-connive-in-propaganda-war-on-syria/

  11. steviefinn July 9, 2017 at 5:11 pm #

    Off topic, but I am posting this here because IMO it is the the best analysis of the why of the Brexit vote that I have come across. There was a documentary a few years ago called ” Mind the Gap “, which was made by some Neoliberal apologist prick whose name I cannot be bothered to look up, who gloried in the miracle of London to an almost streets paved with gold level.
    The idea being alongside some quaint cameos of our hero enjoying driving a forklift & other tasks reserved for minions, was that the great metropolis was surging ahead & leaving the rest of the country behind in it’s wake, but after reading the article below I have realised that the reality was & is a chasm, dug deep over many years, resulting in a t totally rotten fabric, which has since been exposed by the Brexit vote, with the Grenfell disaster adding an additional insight into the reality of the rotten facade, which in London’s case should not be exported anywhere.

    Quite long with some pretty shocking stats :

    https://newleftreview.org/II/105/tom-hazeldine-revolt-of-the-rustbelt

    The stats are

    • steviefinn July 21, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

      It is increasingly looking like the Saudi’s have been shooting themselves in the foot, especially Bin Salman who apparently gained power by way of a coup.

      GoT…..Saudi style :

      http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/07/saudi-arabia-bin-salmans-coup-is-a-model-for-his-own-ouster.html

      • steviefinn July 24, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        This from Tim Haywood who has been tirelessly attempting to sort out the truth from propaganda in terms of the supposed Sarin attack in Syria. Well worth a read – he eloquently describes how if the truth is lost, so likely are we :

        https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/its-time-to-raise-the-level-of-public-debate-about-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-1303

      • Roger Lewis July 27, 2017 at 6:45 am #

        Interesting Stuff Stevie.

        • steviefinn July 29, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

          Meanwhile on progress – the extract from Stuart Hall’s book, ‘ Humanity – an emotional history ‘, I posted here a few years ago.

          http://nypost.com/2017/07/28/couple-caught-in-financial-spiral-jump-to-their-deaths/

          ” In April 1732, in London, a bankrupt bookbinder named Richard Smith decided to end it all. His business had crashed to ruin amid a trail of of unpaid invoices, leaving him with no prospect of relief. With a wife & a child to support, his responsibility was not only to himself. After having apparently discussed the matter with Mrs Smith, they smothered their small daughter & hanged themselves, leaving behind a short letter to their landlord, containing an entreaty to make provision for the dog & cat whose lives they had spared, & money for a porter to make delivery for two further enclosed documents.
          One of these was to an associate, formally thanking him for his sustaining friendship, & expressing indignation at the opposite treatment Smith had received from another party. The second had been signed jointly by the husband & wife, & constituted the couple’s suicide note.
          The Smith’s provided a painstaking explanation of their actions, in terms wholly free of rancour or accusation. Tobias Smollet, in whose panoramic History of England, written in the 1750’s, this story is retailed, comments that the suicide letter was ‘ altogether surprising for the calm resolution, the good humour, & the proprietry with which it was written’. In so ending their lives, the Smith’s wrote, they were releasing themselves from a worse & otherwise unavoidable fate, that of ‘ poverty & rags ‘. They prayed in witness their immediate neighbours, who would be able to attest to their conscientous efforts they had made to earn a living. As to the ghastly business of taking the life of an infant, they argued that, cruel as the act may seem, it constituted a far less callous recourse than leaving her alone & unprovided for in a life of ‘ ignorance & misery ‘. And while they were aware, God-fearing as they were , that suicide was against the holy canon, they refused to believe that the Almighty God, in whom they still placed their utmost trust, would visit any needless suffering on his creatures. They expressed their confidence that they could entrust their souls to him to for whatever arrangements he might make for them after their deaths. Smollet concludes by noting that, far from being a pair of reckless chancers, living on their criminal wits as so many in Georgian London did, the Smith’s ‘ had always been industrious & frugal, invincibly honest, & remarkable for conjugal affection ”

  12. steviefinn August 3, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

    Dr. Richard North who is incidentally in favour of Brexit, lifting a stone which points to elements of the Tory party preferring a Hard Brexit in order to profit from it. Quite a collection of scumbags listed as part of a setup named the Legatum institute who are circling overhead waiting to take advantage of the chaos :

    http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86556

  13. steviefinn August 4, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

    The stuff of nightmares – the best round up I have seen anyway, complete with horror stats :

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/neweconomics/austerity-one-country-case-britain/

  14. steviefinn August 11, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

    Kevin Kavy – if you do as I believe is the case, live in the Brighton area, you might be interested in this :

    Professor Bill Mitchell, a leading proponent of Modern Monetary Theory, has agreed to be our speaker at a fringe meeting to be held during Labour Conference Week in Brighton in September 2017.

    ” The meeting is being organised independently by a small group of Labour members whose goal is to start a conversation about reframing our understanding of economics to match a progressive political agenda. Our funds are limited and so we are seeking to raise money to cover the travel and other costs associated with the event. Your donations and support would be really appreciated.

    For those interested in joining us the meeting will be held on Monday 25th September between 2 and 5pm and the venue is The Brighthelm Centre, North Road, Brighton, BN1 1YD. All are welcome and you don’t have to be a member of the Labour party to attend “.

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