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		By: Dexter Midnight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cheers golem. Appreciate the feedback. What you say on this subject makes sense. D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers golem. Appreciate the feedback. What you say on this subject makes sense. D</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Dexter,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is quite possible that the money is unofficially sanctioned. You could even go so far as to speculate that abetting a bubble in OZ gives China leverage there. But I think China&#039;s pre-eminence as a coal and Iron buyer from OZ gives them that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course it could motor on for longer than a year.  Timing is always everyone&#039;s downfall, mine especially.  If it wasn&#039;t we&#039;d all be rich. The central government might never get a handle on it.  I was certainly arguing that private greed and speculation is out of central control and is getting more so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m just suggesting what the central government might want to do and what would result if they managed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My reason for believing it&#039;s not sanctioned, but is private and illegal bank and regional government money, whose flow flow could get throttled back, is  is simply because I think the Chinese need more than anything to create a domestic demand and internal economy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Chinese would be in a more powerful position if in addition to their massive dollar debt holdings, they ALSO had a robust domestic market supporting their industry.  It would give them insulation from our tribulations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If they manage it without their own bank and property bubble bursting- watch out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dexter,</p>
<p>It is quite possible that the money is unofficially sanctioned. You could even go so far as to speculate that abetting a bubble in OZ gives China leverage there. But I think China&#39;s pre-eminence as a coal and Iron buyer from OZ gives them that.</p>
<p>And of course it could motor on for longer than a year.  Timing is always everyone&#39;s downfall, mine especially.  If it wasn&#39;t we&#39;d all be rich. The central government might never get a handle on it.  I was certainly arguing that private greed and speculation is out of central control and is getting more so.</p>
<p>I&#39;m just suggesting what the central government might want to do and what would result if they managed.</p>
<p>My reason for believing it&#39;s not sanctioned, but is private and illegal bank and regional government money, whose flow flow could get throttled back, is  is simply because I think the Chinese need more than anything to create a domestic demand and internal economy.</p>
<p>The Chinese would be in a more powerful position if in addition to their massive dollar debt holdings, they ALSO had a robust domestic market supporting their industry.  It would give them insulation from our tribulations.</p>
<p>If they manage it without their own bank and property bubble bursting- watch out!</p>
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		By: Dexter Midnight		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Golem&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wanted to ask a question: is it possible that the money flooding into Oz is in fact unofficially sanctioned by the Chinese gov&#039;t ( perhaps it is mainly govt money) - aren&#039;t the Chinese looking for as many dollar-laundering avenues as they can get. And if so - isn&#039;t it possible that chinese govt owned dollars will continue to flood australian investment markets for much more than a year?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Golem</p>
<p>Wanted to ask a question: is it possible that the money flooding into Oz is in fact unofficially sanctioned by the Chinese gov&#39;t ( perhaps it is mainly govt money) &#8211; aren&#39;t the Chinese looking for as many dollar-laundering avenues as they can get. And if so &#8211; isn&#39;t it possible that chinese govt owned dollars will continue to flood australian investment markets for much more than a year?</p>
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