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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/05/a-glimmer-of-hope/#comment-210</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 13:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I missed that it had been withdrawn already.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Faded indeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twas only the smallest of glimmers and extinguished now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed that it had been withdrawn already.</p>
<p>Faded indeed.</p>
<p>Twas only the smallest of glimmers and extinguished now.</p>
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		By: Lars Eirik		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 13:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello again, yes the article seems to say exactly that which you say it does. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, it is very strange, and the jouralist should have asked more questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance; nobody gets any poorer or richer from a write-down alone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s only a proposal, and there is no sense in the premature reaction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess the proposal has the function of a scape-goat, a pretext for hiding real difficulties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your &#039;glimmer of hope&#039; looks faded now: The proposal says in the same article to be withdrawn with apologies for distress caused to investors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again, yes the article seems to say exactly that which you say it does. </p>
<p>But, it is very strange, and the jouralist should have asked more questions.</p>
<p>For instance; nobody gets any poorer or richer from a write-down alone.</p>
<p>It&#39;s only a proposal, and there is no sense in the premature reaction.</p>
<p>I guess the proposal has the function of a scape-goat, a pretext for hiding real difficulties.</p>
<p>Your &#39;glimmer of hope&#39; looks faded now: The proposal says in the same article to be withdrawn with apologies for distress caused to investors.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/05/a-glimmer-of-hope/#comment-207</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops. Sorry . Forgot the link. If I had a penny for every time I&#039;ve done that - I could bail out the banks.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://sfgate.bloomberg.com/SFChronicle/Story?docId=1376-L222IS07SXKY-6]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Sorry . Forgot the link. If I had a penny for every time I&#39;ve done that &#8211; I could bail out the banks.  </p>
<p>Here it is.</p>
<p><a href="http://sfgate.bloomberg.com/SFChronicle/Story?docId=1376-L222IS07SXKY-6" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sfgate.bloomberg.com/SFChronicle/Story?docId=1376-L222IS07SXKY-6</a></p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/05/a-glimmer-of-hope/#comment-206</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 11:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Morning Mr Eirik,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the Bloomberg article.  See what you make of it.  If you think I have completely miss-read this then please let me know and I will withdraw the post immediately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your question about why these two funds and not others are  my questions also.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, write-downs lessen the tax bill. But if you feel the risk from disorderly insolvencies is a greater risk to you government&#039;s finances then it makes sense to force write downs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree on the foreclosures, and also on the need for re-pricing of assets.  But if the funds and banks just WON&#039;T re-price their assets what choice is there but to do it for them? Brutal, but what choice?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree - we do want and must have our money back now.  Except that much of it has gone - gone to the bond buyers in return for the cash to bail out the banks. That money we cannot easily get back, nor get out of those contracts save by debt repudiation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dire, dangerous but in the end may be our last resort.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I say, if I have miss-understood this, please let me know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning Mr Eirik,</p>
<p>Here is the Bloomberg article.  See what you make of it.  If you think I have completely miss-read this then please let me know and I will withdraw the post immediately.</p>
<p>Your question about why these two funds and not others are  my questions also.   </p>
<p>Yes, write-downs lessen the tax bill. But if you feel the risk from disorderly insolvencies is a greater risk to you government&#39;s finances then it makes sense to force write downs.</p>
<p>I agree on the foreclosures, and also on the need for re-pricing of assets.  But if the funds and banks just WON&#39;T re-price their assets what choice is there but to do it for them? Brutal, but what choice?</p>
<p>I agree &#8211; we do want and must have our money back now.  Except that much of it has gone &#8211; gone to the bond buyers in return for the cash to bail out the banks. That money we cannot easily get back, nor get out of those contracts save by debt repudiation.</p>
<p>Dire, dangerous but in the end may be our last resort.</p>
<p>As I say, if I have miss-understood this, please let me know.</p>
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		By: Lars Eirik		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 10:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi again, Mr. Golem, are you sure about these informations? First it appears as an ulikely piece of legislation to propose in any country, and secondly why just these two funds and not all funds that could be affected? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both for accounting and taxwise, the value of a property is its cost minus depreciation. Certainly real values and tax values may differ, but then it is usually the owners who wants tax authorities to accept bigger write-offs. I cannot see what in the world could prompt legislators to impose bigger write-offs than the owner (and his auditor) deems appropriate. Write-offs usually lessen the tax bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10% sounds arbitrary, and, if annually, way too much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see little hope in this. It&#039;s a hallucination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We want to see more forclosures and repricing of assets. For that to happen, somehow the liquidity that so generously have been throwed at the banks must be withdrawn. We want our money back now, Mr. Banker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, Mr. Golem, are you sure about these informations? First it appears as an ulikely piece of legislation to propose in any country, and secondly why just these two funds and not all funds that could be affected? </p>
<p>Both for accounting and taxwise, the value of a property is its cost minus depreciation. Certainly real values and tax values may differ, but then it is usually the owners who wants tax authorities to accept bigger write-offs. I cannot see what in the world could prompt legislators to impose bigger write-offs than the owner (and his auditor) deems appropriate. Write-offs usually lessen the tax bill.</p>
<p>10% sounds arbitrary, and, if annually, way too much.</p>
<p>I see little hope in this. It&#39;s a hallucination.</p>
<p>We want to see more forclosures and repricing of assets. For that to happen, somehow the liquidity that so generously have been throwed at the banks must be withdrawn. We want our money back now, Mr. Banker.</p>
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