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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/06/portugal-does-the-greek-debt-dance/#comment-502</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RichGB,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to agree. This is where I find Ferguson a bit of an apologist.  I can&#039;t decide if its because of his politics or his academic investments (in ideas I mean) or perhaps both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I agree that his analysis deson&#039;t do it for me.  I think he is still very much within the denialist camp.  Deny the debts, dney they make a difference, deny that economics is theology for a dead god.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RichGB,</p>
<p>I have to agree. This is where I find Ferguson a bit of an apologist.  I can&#39;t decide if its because of his politics or his academic investments (in ideas I mean) or perhaps both.</p>
<p>But I agree that his analysis deson&#39;t do it for me.  I think he is still very much within the denialist camp.  Deny the debts, dney they make a difference, deny that economics is theology for a dead god.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The lecture by Niall Ferguson was fascinating for its *historical* viewpoint. &lt;br /&gt;However, surely the modern crisis is unlike anything that has happened before, for two reasons:&lt;br /&gt;1) the developed countries are not recovering from major wars - no public euphoria to usher in harsh new belt-tightening regimes.&lt;br /&gt;2) most of the global debt has not been defined in terms of values on balance sheets - the academics can present as many forecasts as they like, but do they take in to account the real, undeclared values of financial instruments such as credit default swaps?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lecture by Niall Ferguson was fascinating for its *historical* viewpoint. <br />However, surely the modern crisis is unlike anything that has happened before, for two reasons:<br />1) the developed countries are not recovering from major wars &#8211; no public euphoria to usher in harsh new belt-tightening regimes.<br />2) most of the global debt has not been defined in terms of values on balance sheets &#8211; the academics can present as many forecasts as they like, but do they take in to account the real, undeclared values of financial instruments such as credit default swaps?</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/06/portugal-does-the-greek-debt-dance/#comment-500</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Morning John,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that is a useful page.  Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning John,</p>
<p>Now that is a useful page.  Thank you!</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Golemxiv,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love the blog as always.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is refreshing to see someone looking past the next headline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are sick of the spin put on every story you might find the following source of &#039;relatively&#039; objective stats useful?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.forexfactory.com/calendar.php&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The graph function on the right tends to be scary when you look at unemployment etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, all these numbers are easily available and the agencies coming-up with the stats in the first place can change their &#039;methodology&#039;. However I find I get more solid facts out of that single web page than the whole BBC business section!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Golemxiv,</p>
<p>Love the blog as always.</p>
<p>It is refreshing to see someone looking past the next headline.</p>
<p>If you are sick of the spin put on every story you might find the following source of &#39;relatively&#39; objective stats useful?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forexfactory.com/calendar.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forexfactory.com/calendar.php</a></p>
<p>The graph function on the right tends to be scary when you look at unemployment etc.</p>
<p>Of course, all these numbers are easily available and the agencies coming-up with the stats in the first place can change their &#39;methodology&#39;. However I find I get more solid facts out of that single web page than the whole BBC business section!</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2010/06/portugal-does-the-greek-debt-dance/#comment-495</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ian,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll take a look.  But interesting if he&#039;s saying similar things.  I wouldn&#039;t have guessed it.  I have always thought he was an out and out apologist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ian,</p>
<p>I&#39;ll take a look.  But interesting if he&#39;s saying similar things.  I wouldn&#39;t have guessed it.  I have always thought he was an out and out apologist.</p>
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		By: IanG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I found an interesting article by Niall Ferguson here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.iie.com/events/event_detail.cfm?EventID=152&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fiscal Crises and Imperial Collapses: Historical Perspective on Current Predicaments&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gloomy reading but riveting saying much the same as yourself Golem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an interesting article by Niall Ferguson here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iie.com/events/event_detail.cfm?EventID=152" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.iie.com/events/event_detail.cfm?EventID=152</a></p>
<p>Fiscal Crises and Imperial Collapses: Historical Perspective on Current Predicaments</p>
<p>Gloomy reading but riveting saying much the same as yourself Golem.</p>
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