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		By: Ben Gabel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Gabel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone here able to help me understand?  I&#039;m fairly sure I &#039;get it&#039; with how MERS tracks the mortgages that make up a CDO.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand the current issue as to whether the internal MERS assignation of ownership can be reconciled with the actual paper-based ownership or not. And I see why this was useful to the securitization process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what I am really  struggling with is CDO-squared. Once you make CDOs of CDOs, how does that affect the (alleged)  title in MERS???  Surely there are then two claims on the same property? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And is there some sort of second system of tracking like MERS somewhere?  E.g. does each MERS entry in fact somehow suffer from the same problem that the mortgage deeds suffer from ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ben, now confused, just when it all seemed so clear .. .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone here able to help me understand?  I&#39;m fairly sure I &#39;get it&#39; with how MERS tracks the mortgages that make up a CDO.</p>
<p>I understand the current issue as to whether the internal MERS assignation of ownership can be reconciled with the actual paper-based ownership or not. And I see why this was useful to the securitization process.</p>
<p>But what I am really  struggling with is CDO-squared. Once you make CDOs of CDOs, how does that affect the (alleged)  title in MERS???  Surely there are then two claims on the same property? </p>
<p>And is there some sort of second system of tracking like MERS somewhere?  E.g. does each MERS entry in fact somehow suffer from the same problem that the mortgage deeds suffer from ?</p>
<p>Ben, now confused, just when it all seemed so clear .. .</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Golem&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you said &#039;it gets worse&#039; were you referring to the fact that loans have been pledged to &lt;strong&gt;multiple&lt;/strong&gt; buyers?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/10/mortgages-which-can-legally-only-be.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Golem</p>
<p>When you said &#39;it gets worse&#39; were you referring to the fact that loans have been pledged to <strong>multiple</strong> buyers?</p>
<p><a href="http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/10/mortgages-which-can-legally-only-be.html" rel="nofollow">See here</a></p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like the purple pounds idea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://huffpostfund.org/stories/2010/10/new-tax-man-big-banks-and-hedge-funds]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the purple pounds idea.</p>
<p><a href="http://huffpostfund.org/stories/2010/10/new-tax-man-big-banks-and-hedge-funds" rel="nofollow ugc">http://huffpostfund.org/stories/2010/10/new-tax-man-big-banks-and-hedge-funds</a></p>
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		By: Ben Gabel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK here&#039;s a serious suggestion as an alternative to QEII.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of creating QE pounds, lets create a parallel currency (call it kilos, GBK for short) and issue QE of that instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Make it legal tender, 1GBK = 1GBP in all respects except it is not valid for payment of taxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the GPK will have a higher velocity than GBP, and businesses will not accumulate them  as they would have to pay 30% corporation tax on them but cant use them to pay it!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the GBK will actually be spent, and spent again, and again without all ending up in a bank. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; If you wanted to be really cunning you would say they couldn&#039;t be used for foreign exchange or interest payments either, so the QE stayed local and didn&#039;t disappear offshore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK here&#39;s a serious suggestion as an alternative to QEII.</p>
<p>Instead of creating QE pounds, lets create a parallel currency (call it kilos, GBK for short) and issue QE of that instead.</p>
<p>Make it legal tender, 1GBK = 1GBP in all respects except it is not valid for payment of taxes.</p>
<p>Now the GPK will have a higher velocity than GBP, and businesses will not accumulate them  as they would have to pay 30% corporation tax on them but cant use them to pay it!</p>
<p>So the GBK will actually be spent, and spent again, and again without all ending up in a bank. </p>
<p> If you wanted to be really cunning you would say they couldn&#39;t be used for foreign exchange or interest payments either, so the QE stayed local and didn&#39;t disappear offshore.</p>
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		By: brobof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Probably Old Hat but here&#039;s a little someting on MERS. http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-is-mers-and-what-role-does-it-have.html Talk about Fun! And funny business. Excellent article BTW.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably Old Hat but here&#39;s a little someting on MERS. <a href="http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-is-mers-and-what-role-does-it-have.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-is-mers-and-what-role-does-it-have.html</a> Talk about Fun! And funny business. Excellent article BTW.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They&#039;ve so crassly cheated the system with little thought for finesse. Are the bankers now so rich that they are bored? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It reminds me of a kid losing interest in a sophisticated toy. There&#039;s only one thing left to do with that toy - let&#039;s break it open and see how it works! Bum! It won&#039;t go back together! Better hide it under the bed and hope Daddy does not notice. I saw him sharpening sticks in the garage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#39;ve so crassly cheated the system with little thought for finesse. Are the bankers now so rich that they are bored? </p>
<p>It reminds me of a kid losing interest in a sophisticated toy. There&#39;s only one thing left to do with that toy &#8211; let&#39;s break it open and see how it works! Bum! It won&#39;t go back together! Better hide it under the bed and hope Daddy does not notice. I saw him sharpening sticks in the garage.</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Counterfeiting currency by photocopying isn&#039;t ludicrous, it&#039;s genius. i have a friend who always bangs on about forged twenties. He showed me one they were printing up the valleys (not involved may i add), near perfect with silver except for no raised writing, paper not waxy enough and the foil line was not all the way through when you held it up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Linda Green the human servant (got a song about her half finished for you Rich, to do with your stakes ;-) ) That had nothing to do with the forgery as such, as nobody knew what her signature looked like ( we all know a £20).&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s all about the trust, faith in the system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But when profit has the most gravity, compassion, empathy, profit for the soul and trust are forgotten in the animal drive.&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure alot of these bankers did it to help their own families get ahead, basic drives uncluttered. Like drunks on a saturday night, blinkered with their lizard brains switched to turbo. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is evolution brought around by harsh events? Resistant Superbug making little Johnny sick because his mum tries to wipe everything out with chemicals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If so for us to evolve it&#039;s gotta go bang and then we see who wins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Empire, guest starring Barry Soetoro and his Bildeberg mates or the masses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That&#039;s evolution, evolution with an R&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good name for the album&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.myspace.com/strangetowncollective]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Counterfeiting currency by photocopying isn&#39;t ludicrous, it&#39;s genius. i have a friend who always bangs on about forged twenties. He showed me one they were printing up the valleys (not involved may i add), near perfect with silver except for no raised writing, paper not waxy enough and the foil line was not all the way through when you held it up.</p>
<p>Linda Green the human servant (got a song about her half finished for you Rich, to do with your stakes 😉 ) That had nothing to do with the forgery as such, as nobody knew what her signature looked like ( we all know a £20).<br />That&#39;s all about the trust, faith in the system.</p>
<p>But when profit has the most gravity, compassion, empathy, profit for the soul and trust are forgotten in the animal drive.<br />I&#39;m sure alot of these bankers did it to help their own families get ahead, basic drives uncluttered. Like drunks on a saturday night, blinkered with their lizard brains switched to turbo. </p>
<p>Is evolution brought around by harsh events? Resistant Superbug making little Johnny sick because his mum tries to wipe everything out with chemicals.</p>
<p>If so for us to evolve it&#39;s gotta go bang and then we see who wins.</p>
<p>The Empire, guest starring Barry Soetoro and his Bildeberg mates or the masses.</p>
<p>That&#39;s evolution, evolution with an R</p>
<p>Good name for the album</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/strangetowncollective" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.myspace.com/strangetowncollective</a></p>
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		By: DopeAddict		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 18:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I still fear that pressure from the federal govt will result in state AGs eventually just waving thousands &#038; thousands of foreclosures through court, under the pretense of &#034;problem solved.&#034; The last governor to attempt to put a spanner in the works of mortgage fraud was Eliot Spitzer. We know what happened to him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still fear that pressure from the federal govt will result in state AGs eventually just waving thousands &amp; thousands of foreclosures through court, under the pretense of &quot;problem solved.&quot; The last governor to attempt to put a spanner in the works of mortgage fraud was Eliot Spitzer. We know what happened to him.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It gets worse Rich. A great deal worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets worse Rich. A great deal worse.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a clear explanation of the problem Golem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s all quite ludicrous, like attempting to counterfeit currency merely by photocopying it. Surely the banks with their sophisticated teams of lawyers and analysts could have had the foresight in these last two years to predict that this would all unravel. &lt;br /&gt;They must be supremely arrogant in their confidence that governments will bend to their will. It makes me re-consider those conspiracy theories regarding hidden agendas of unelected World governments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a clear explanation of the problem Golem.</p>
<p>It&#39;s all quite ludicrous, like attempting to counterfeit currency merely by photocopying it. Surely the banks with their sophisticated teams of lawyers and analysts could have had the foresight in these last two years to predict that this would all unravel. <br />They must be supremely arrogant in their confidence that governments will bend to their will. It makes me re-consider those conspiracy theories regarding hidden agendas of unelected World governments.</p>
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