Thank your for commenting. I'm sorry it's only me replying. It is a weakness of th eway my blog is set up that posts tend to get forgotten. I wish I was clever enough to keep threads active and somehow show which ones are still active. But I don't know how to do it.

For what it's worth I remember the poll as you do. A true grass roots uprising. And as you say even those who would tut at smashing up cars were reluctant to condemn it in the event. And Mrs T went as a result.

We did it then. No reason to think we can't do it again.

Rob i doff my hat to you and G, i told you leaflets are the way to go.

The cold hard facts printed on a sick bag, just in case they make people queasy.

With a large enough font that can be photcopied from a copy from a copy from a copy. Physical facts from a virtual world, nice.

Get writing people, send them to G and he can pick the best and put them in the pdf gallery, bit like this dude:

Tony Hart -check the music-

"Here we have a lovely one from Carol aged 53. I love the way you have written FRAUD, CHEAT and STEAL, very good. Next we have John aged 26..".

You are right, uk plc is a unreal, stomach churning concept. Just look out your window and watch the world – pretending that it is 'money that makes the world go round' is just plain wrong.

You may have seen this article from the independant, via Naked Capital.

Protest Works Just look at the proof

Your blog may just have more effect than you think. Who knows?

It is such a pleasure to read all the comments. I hope nothing in my reply to Benek99 was offensive and s/he will continue to post challenging comments.

Thank you also Andrew/Catarina for suggesting how, what I said, may have struck people. I never want my personal politics to become an issue. I get angry, that's all.

IanG's comments speaks to me also. When he says 'the rights of indigenous workers' right there is one of those places where racist cretins try to insinuate themselves. 'Yes, yes', they'll say, "It's all the fault of those foreign workers.' And THAT is where the racist interpretation versus mine and I think IanG's, divide.

To make the observation about foreign workers doing jobs more cheaply is not to put the blame on them. It is simply to state a fact. If I was poor and was offered a job, I'd take it too. There is no blame in wanting to provide for your family.

Those shipping the jobs off-shore or hiring cheaper foreign labour would like nothing better than for us to blame the 'foreigners'. It distracts us from the real issue.

For twenty years we have believed those who claim the unfettered free market and its logic CANNOT and MUST NOT be resisted. Our entire poltiical class, left and right, has swollowed this argument and rolled over for the markets, stripped us of any protections and delivered us and our society naked into the market machine.

The company bosses and our politicians chose to believe that the market logic is all powerful. And some of them really believe the market knows best and cannot be resisted. They are moral cowards and feeble thinkers. OR they are simply making too much money to care.

They tell us there is noting we can do. But that is not true. Not true politically nor economically. It is the great lie of neo-liberal free-market ideology.

It is a lie we had better stand and face and defeat in argument if we do not want to see our children impoverished.

We are a group of people on a planet still abundant and rich in resources. We are divided by fears and bigotries. But it is not beyond us to find a better logic than the one that insists that only when the greediest among us are aboslutely sated, only then can the poorest be spared a crumb. That is the logic of the unfettered market.

We can do better.

For those posters asking when the riots will start, don't hold your breath. Don't expect anything from the ineffectual Labour Party or the toothless TUC. However, there will be resistance to this attack on the poor.

The resistance will come from people of my class, the underclass. We may not know that we are resisting, but resist we will. Our children will mug your children for things that none of them really need. Some of us, in despair, will turn to drink and drugs, and to fuel our newly acquired habits we will burgle your house, or shoplift from your businesses. Others of us will turn to prostitution, and spread disease and family break-up. If I had my way, our resistance would take a more recognisable form, whereby we would visit the bailiffs, the police and the politicians in their homes and make them regret their attacks. Unfortunately, this would require a heightened political awareness we don't possess.

However, we do have an instinctive political awareness. We know our enemy. I have many happy memories of when, as a teenager, my mates and I would commit acts of petty vandalism in the Tory voting areas we had to pass through on the way back to our edge of town council estate after a night out. We weren't sure why we were doing this, but we knew we were doing it in the right place.

I have come to the conclusion that an emotional response (be it anger or frustration or whatever) is "inappropriate" because the fraudulent and reductive logic used to justify their actions is unemotional- even zombie like in its herd reasoning ( we must be as them to survive).

Emotional arguments are only useful for answering emotional arguments.

It's your lucidity and rationality that your commentors on this site value, in the face of the blunt-edged quasi-rationality used by governments to justify rooking their flock. That you argue well and with passion gives your take on this a power which I for one respond to and am willing to put my weight behind where possible. Threatening to spill blood makes me run away. The RBS attracted no suicide bombers; thank fuck. That also is a "a tie that binds us together" as you put it.