Do you have any future talks around the corner?

@ Sean. Not sure what you mean, but you sound like a philistine?

Ian.

A few more scientists and engineers will help, but industry does not spring from the minds of scientific intellectuals, in general.
I think you need to be clearer on what you mean by 'social sciences' – this is a very broad brush-stroke.

I am an engineer, but I rely on people trained in non-scientific disciplines to design my artwork, product enclosures, software user interfaces, accounting systems; advise on business plans, employment procedures, corporate law; keep the dangerously insane from my doorstep; etc.

I'm sure even the great Isambard Kingdom Brunel relied on similar people.

Perhaps by 'social sciences' you're referring to that horrible subject 'social studies' that used to be taught very inadequately in schools?

Once again a lefty with a straw man argument.

As for Gobbels/Nazi SLUR, my grandfather was Polish and his war started on 1 sept 1939. He made his way to England via Norway then fought his way thru Belsen to Hamburg as he lived in a German speaking part of Poland he was part of the Denazification programme in Germany after the war. I know first hand about the National Socialist and statist thinking.

Social "sciences" are part of the problem!

I quite like the orange grove theory too. We believed we had earned our orange grove, we deserved it, but had stopped working for it. Now there are all these demos demanding the return of the orange grove, but it's gone, dead. We let it die because we allowed our leaders to fool us into believing it was ours by right.

Anyway Golem, to get back on topic, I've been through the Green Party policy with a fine tooth comb and while it addresses 'corporations' with premises in both developed and developing worlds, there are no concrete measures that address the massive environmental damage caused by industry in the developing world for export to us. And this industry results in a huge net increase in pollution, and a transfer of employment and revenue from here to there.

Hopefully you can have some influence tonight.

As ever, Unclear.

Your comment reminds me of the quote always attributed to Goebbels – "When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun." He hated intellectual witterers too.

If you really want such a narrow church of allowed pursuits that you personally approve of, then this is not the place for you and you should move on. If you're just boiling over with anger, I understand, but ask you to think about how intollerant and narrow minded you sound.

Be angry constructively. If you can't do that and really are as anti- intellectual as you claim, then goodluck and pleaae close the door behind you on your way out.

Instead of kids wittering on about Wittgenstein, or pretend sciences such as Socialism and economics, or the new inductive god Gaia.

We might get on with some real science instead and really make a difference.

In a way the financial sector and the public sector suffer from the same problem Ibn Khalduns Orange grove theory of history, or in other words, as soon as a society becomes the dominant culture, thereafter starts its decline, or to put it more in Ibn's thoughts,any society that is going so well that they have time to relax and plant orange groves is henceforth doomed.

500 mile round trip not really practical so count me out, but I look forward to the youtube presentation. Bring the show further south and my attendance and support is guaranteed.