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		By: JamieGriffiths		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/the-lower-edge-of-luxury/#comment-2544</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Rebecca,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They started infiltrating protest movements in 84-85 and I doubt they&#039;ve ever really stopped.&lt;br /&gt;Back then the military were brought in to help the police subdue the miners (though this is denied, many eyewitness accounts attest to the presence of soldiers driving vans or providing other logistical support). These days the police they use for protests are almost indistinguishable from soldiers in their get-up.&lt;br /&gt;I guess my point is that they&#039;re not scared. Not yet. They think they&#039;ve got it covered. That the level of protest will never reach that which can&#039;t be easily contained by their hired thugs.&lt;br /&gt;I really hope that changes - which is why we need to keep spreading the word and get as many people out on the streets in March as possible. It&#039;s a real litmus test.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rebecca,</p>
<p>They started infiltrating protest movements in 84-85 and I doubt they&#39;ve ever really stopped.<br />Back then the military were brought in to help the police subdue the miners (though this is denied, many eyewitness accounts attest to the presence of soldiers driving vans or providing other logistical support). These days the police they use for protests are almost indistinguishable from soldiers in their get-up.<br />I guess my point is that they&#39;re not scared. Not yet. They think they&#39;ve got it covered. That the level of protest will never reach that which can&#39;t be easily contained by their hired thugs.<br />I really hope that changes &#8211; which is why we need to keep spreading the word and get as many people out on the streets in March as possible. It&#39;s a real litmus test.</p>
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		By: Fungus FitzJuggler III		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/the-lower-edge-of-luxury/#comment-2536</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fungus FitzJuggler III]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 05:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The enemy is not bankers. They merely are a symptom, execrable one at that!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those who desire the system are the problem, the half thinkers who fall for CON-sumerism? They empower bankers who clearly do not share their wealth except by passing loans to these hangers on before the rest of us. Banking, like a chain letter, becomes Ponzi finance once it passes into consumer hands. Banking can be useful if very restricted. The lobby and political system empowered this disruptive credit system. It damages indiscriminately but the wise can profit from it as they see it coming. Thuis the wise actually keep it going in order to get more support for those who wish to alter the world for the better. Hence the Rockefeller idea that unifying countries will cut corruption, waste and war? They have made so much that even their vestigial consciences are disturbed by the boom bust cycle, but they knoiw it is endemic to poor government. Perhaps they see some Confucianist future for one world government where banking will be restricted?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The enemy is not bankers. They merely are a symptom, execrable one at that!</p>
<p>Those who desire the system are the problem, the half thinkers who fall for CON-sumerism? They empower bankers who clearly do not share their wealth except by passing loans to these hangers on before the rest of us. Banking, like a chain letter, becomes Ponzi finance once it passes into consumer hands. Banking can be useful if very restricted. The lobby and political system empowered this disruptive credit system. It damages indiscriminately but the wise can profit from it as they see it coming. Thuis the wise actually keep it going in order to get more support for those who wish to alter the world for the better. Hence the Rockefeller idea that unifying countries will cut corruption, waste and war? They have made so much that even their vestigial consciences are disturbed by the boom bust cycle, but they knoiw it is endemic to poor government. Perhaps they see some Confucianist future for one world government where banking will be restricted?</p>
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		By: JamieGriffiths		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Golem,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is really the crux of the issue, isn&#039;t it? Once you get past all the financial alchemy, exotic derviatives, CDOs, CDSs, POMOs, Bond Yields and SIVs what you&#039;re left with is the tangible, clearly identifiable effect that the crisis is having on our lives. You start to see it for what it really was: a giant tornado sucking wealth up from the ordinary man in order to redistibute it among the richest 2%.&lt;br /&gt;This is becoming more and more apparent by the day as more and more essential services are taken away from those who can&#039;t afford to pay for a private company to deliver them. It&#039;s going to increasingly create anger and frustration and if we&#039;re not careful, as you&#039;ve said, the elites will use that anger to turn us against each other.&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m so glad to see your interview on the Kaiser report and to see RichGB&#039;s new blog. I hope the message keeps on gaining momentum.&lt;br /&gt;Keep on shouting it loud everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Golem,</p>
<p>This is really the crux of the issue, isn&#39;t it? Once you get past all the financial alchemy, exotic derviatives, CDOs, CDSs, POMOs, Bond Yields and SIVs what you&#39;re left with is the tangible, clearly identifiable effect that the crisis is having on our lives. You start to see it for what it really was: a giant tornado sucking wealth up from the ordinary man in order to redistibute it among the richest 2%.<br />This is becoming more and more apparent by the day as more and more essential services are taken away from those who can&#39;t afford to pay for a private company to deliver them. It&#39;s going to increasingly create anger and frustration and if we&#39;re not careful, as you&#39;ve said, the elites will use that anger to turn us against each other.<br />I&#39;m so glad to see your interview on the Kaiser report and to see RichGB&#39;s new blog. I hope the message keeps on gaining momentum.<br />Keep on shouting it loud everyone.</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The buffet&#039;s lovely, thanks dude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll get on it.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once opened it cannot be unopened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;£%$~&lt;a href=&quot;http://necromoneycon.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Necromoneycon&lt;/a&gt;~$%£]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The buffet&#39;s lovely, thanks dude.</p>
<p>I&#39;ll get on it.  </p>
<p>Once opened it cannot be unopened.</p>
<p>£%$~<a href="http://necromoneycon.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Necromoneycon</a>~$%£</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi 24K&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cheesy pineapple thingies are ready now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m afraid your exorcism skills won&#039;t be much good against Vampire Squids, but if you can transfer you metalworking skills to wood we might be able to craft some pointy pointy stakes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 24K</p>
<p>The cheesy pineapple thingies are ready now.</p>
<p>I&#39;m afraid your exorcism skills won&#39;t be much good against Vampire Squids, but if you can transfer you metalworking skills to wood we might be able to craft some pointy pointy stakes.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Leni&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Detroit has desperate problems not experienced by any city / town in the UK. It is in danger of becoming like many of the ghost towns that litter the USA, the victims of economic downfalls and declining populations - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/mi/mi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Non-USA citizens (like me) are astonished at what is happening in America today, a nation that is supposedly one of the richest in the world and a model for freedom and democracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Steinbeck wasn&#039;t kind about banks in his novel &#039;The Grapes of Wrath&#039;, but he did show the pioneering spirit of downtrodden Americans in a very good light.&lt;br /&gt;How long before we see economic migrants in the USA? ... or is it already happening?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that the only way out of the municipality funding crisis is to amalgamate cities or have fewer of them. The latter option occurs by attrition when citizens vote with their feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Leni</p>
<p>Detroit has desperate problems not experienced by any city / town in the UK. It is in danger of becoming like many of the ghost towns that litter the USA, the victims of economic downfalls and declining populations &#8211; see <a href="http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/mi/mi.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. </p>
<p>Non-USA citizens (like me) are astonished at what is happening in America today, a nation that is supposedly one of the richest in the world and a model for freedom and democracy.</p>
<p>John Steinbeck wasn&#39;t kind about banks in his novel &#39;The Grapes of Wrath&#39;, but he did show the pioneering spirit of downtrodden Americans in a very good light.<br />How long before we see economic migrants in the USA? &#8230; or is it already happening?</p>
<p>It seems to me that the only way out of the municipality funding crisis is to amalgamate cities or have fewer of them. The latter option occurs by attrition when citizens vote with their feet.</p>
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		By: IanG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 18:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi David, interesting post and the comments as well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MSM has a lot to answer for in not speaking the facts. I fear we will let the anger vent harmlessly unless direct action is taken. As mentioned on this thread though, people have a comfortable life and will cling on to what they know and will only rebel when things get dire. I&#039;m as guilty of this as anyone, I am fortunate to be in work (at my age - late 50s - and with a disability as well), I have a house (paid for) family so I cannot be anywhere near the lower rungs that a lot of folk have to eke out an existence. However, I do know what it is like to be out of work for over a year, desperate to get a job but no joy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep up the good work and I hope to attend any London meet you arrange.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, interesting post and the comments as well. </p>
<p>The MSM has a lot to answer for in not speaking the facts. I fear we will let the anger vent harmlessly unless direct action is taken. As mentioned on this thread though, people have a comfortable life and will cling on to what they know and will only rebel when things get dire. I&#39;m as guilty of this as anyone, I am fortunate to be in work (at my age &#8211; late 50s &#8211; and with a disability as well), I have a house (paid for) family so I cannot be anywhere near the lower rungs that a lot of folk have to eke out an existence. However, I do know what it is like to be out of work for over a year, desperate to get a job but no joy.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work and I hope to attend any London meet you arrange.</p>
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		By: Uncle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hyperlink like this&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#060;a href=&#034;http://whatever.com&#034;&#062;some text&#060;/a&#062;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperlink like this</p>
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		By: The MacPuddock.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MacPuddock.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks  for the  link  to the  HTML. I  assumed there was some  other  way, similar to  google. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jan/22/banking-commission-will-consider-breaking-up-biggest-banks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here  is another  try to create the  link &lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;Leni&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not  sure anywhere  in UK  equates to Detroit. i  am  in  Ohio  and have  been  through Detroit. I think the  answer  may  be  to re-discover  the  kinds  of  small,  local organisations that  existed  in the  past. Re-discover  Community. There  is a  huge  amount  of  self-help  going  on  in the  US. It  is an aspect of the  US  that  many  in the  UK are  not  very aware  of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks  for the  link  to the  HTML. I  assumed there was some  other  way, similar to  google. <br /><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jan/22/banking-commission-will-consider-breaking-up-biggest-banks" rel="nofollow">Here  is another  try to create the  link </a>  <br />Leni</p>
<p>Not  sure anywhere  in UK  equates to Detroit. i  am  in  Ohio  and have  been  through Detroit. I think the  answer  may  be  to re-discover  the  kinds  of  small,  local organisations that  existed  in the  past. Re-discover  Community. There  is a  huge  amount  of  self-help  going  on  in the  US. It  is an aspect of the  US  that  many  in the  UK are  not  very aware  of.</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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