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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/zenos-recovery-looking-forward-with-fury-to-2011/#comment-19154</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every week we advance half-way to the recovery!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every week we advance half-way to the recovery!</p>
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		By: andrew		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/zenos-recovery-looking-forward-with-fury-to-2011/#comment-2342</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[correction...ex president.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction&#8230;ex president.</p>
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		By: andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[for those of you that speak french&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4049727159199474941#docid=5455228578800445334&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for those that can&#039;t, here&#039;s translation of 2 lines&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;Those people who lead us into debt, they are playing us as in a casino. When they win, there&#039;s no argument.&lt;br /&gt;Now that they have lost at the game, they demand repayment from us. They talk about a &#034; crisis&#034;.&lt;br /&gt;No Mr president. They played, they lost,they should play by the rules. Life goes on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thomas sankara, zw- president of burkina faso.&lt;br /&gt; The sum of his argument is that debt economics is an extension of colonialism that serves only a small elite. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was assasinated in 1987.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those of you that speak french</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4049727159199474941#docid=5455228578800445334" rel="nofollow ugc">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4049727159199474941#docid=5455228578800445334</a></p>
<p>for those that can&#39;t, here&#39;s translation of 2 lines</p>
<p>&quot;Those people who lead us into debt, they are playing us as in a casino. When they win, there&#39;s no argument.<br />Now that they have lost at the game, they demand repayment from us. They talk about a &quot; crisis&quot;.<br />No Mr president. They played, they lost,they should play by the rules. Life goes on.</p>
<p>Thomas sankara, zw- president of burkina faso.<br /> The sum of his argument is that debt economics is an extension of colonialism that serves only a small elite. </p>
<p>He was assasinated in 1987.</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No probs dudes, it was a bit like watching Twin Peaks mind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I saw a short film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB3yxtst7p0&#038;feature=player_embedded#!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt; ;) and thought of you guys. It&#039;s in French too!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although to be fair his tweak was like Benanke&#039;s. If we all became Le Technician mind...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No probs dudes, it was a bit like watching Twin Peaks mind.</p>
<p>I saw a short film <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB3yxtst7p0&amp;feature=player_embedded#!" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> 😉 and thought of you guys. It&#39;s in French too!</p>
<p>Although to be fair his tweak was like Benanke&#39;s. If we all became Le Technician mind&#8230;</p>
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		By: princesschipchops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[princesschipchops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[24k Thanks for the tip - I am so technologyically challenged I didn&#039;t even know about it - was going to ask my stepdad to translate - but now I can read it for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24k Thanks for the tip &#8211; I am so technologyically challenged I didn&#39;t even know about it &#8211; was going to ask my stepdad to translate &#8211; but now I can read it for myself.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/zenos-recovery-looking-forward-with-fury-to-2011/#comment-2337</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RichGB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 00:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi PrincessChipChops&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sympathise with your frustration at accessing the non-English contributions to this debate - and Google&#039;s low-contextual (garbled!) translation of &#039;Indignez Vous&#039; does not help. It seems to me that the English-speaking countries are the cause of this economic crisis, but &#039;we&#039; (the debaters) are the citizens of the same said trouble-causing nations. I fear that our imagination is severely restricted by our own experiences, tainted by the corruption oozing out of Wall Street and The Square Mile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;New Year&#039;s resolution for all: go beyond your familiar newspapers and brave the Google Translator, if necessary. J&#039;èspere votre découvertes ne sonne pas comme les &#039;Flower Pot Men&#039;. Huh? Non-Brits can find an explanation &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Pot_Men&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ICI&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PrincessChipChops</p>
<p>I sympathise with your frustration at accessing the non-English contributions to this debate &#8211; and Google&#39;s low-contextual (garbled!) translation of &#39;Indignez Vous&#39; does not help. It seems to me that the English-speaking countries are the cause of this economic crisis, but &#39;we&#39; (the debaters) are the citizens of the same said trouble-causing nations. I fear that our imagination is severely restricted by our own experiences, tainted by the corruption oozing out of Wall Street and The Square Mile.</p>
<p>New Year&#39;s resolution for all: go beyond your familiar newspapers and brave the Google Translator, if necessary. J&#39;èspere votre découvertes ne sonne pas comme les &#39;Flower Pot Men&#39;. Huh? Non-Brits can find an explanation <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Pot_Men" rel="nofollow">ICI</a>.</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/01/zenos-recovery-looking-forward-with-fury-to-2011/#comment-2336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RichGB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The phrase &#039;doing a Peston&#039; might be defined as the release of &#039;controversial&#039; comments from a World-respected media organisation, i.e. the BBC. Now, it seems Stephanie Flanders has become the suicidal messenger: see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/stephanieflanders/2011/01/the_us_as_deadbeat_discuss.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Yes, it might seem like the equivalent of saying &#039;I say&#039; to attract the attention of a barmaid in a busy pub, but I think this is a strong statement for the World-renowned BBC.&lt;br /&gt;Now that I&#039;ve deposited my link, RoboCop style, I shall depart, but not before leaving a parting shot: &#039;Excuse me, I have to go. Somewhere there is a crime happening.&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase &#39;doing a Peston&#39; might be defined as the release of &#39;controversial&#39; comments from a World-respected media organisation, i.e. the BBC. Now, it seems Stephanie Flanders has become the suicidal messenger: see <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/stephanieflanders/2011/01/the_us_as_deadbeat_discuss.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.<br />Yes, it might seem like the equivalent of saying &#39;I say&#39; to attract the attention of a barmaid in a busy pub, but I think this is a strong statement for the World-renowned BBC.<br />Now that I&#39;ve deposited my link, RoboCop style, I shall depart, but not before leaving a parting shot: &#39;Excuse me, I have to go. Somewhere there is a crime happening.&#39;</p>
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		By: RichGB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RichGB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi wirplit&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such figures are terrifying and conjure up that image of Frank Cotton at the end of Hellraiser uttering his final words, writhing in ecstasy whilst being torn apart: &#039;Jesusss wept!&#039;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, is this conjecture? The trouble with SGS is that they require money to be paid to access their methodology. If they are confident in their data then the derivation system should be freely available, to encourage subscription. Perhaps I am too cynical?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi wirplit</p>
<p>Such figures are terrifying and conjure up that image of Frank Cotton at the end of Hellraiser uttering his final words, writhing in ecstasy whilst being torn apart: &#39;Jesusss wept!&#39;</p>
<p>However, is this conjecture? The trouble with SGS is that they require money to be paid to access their methodology. If they are confident in their data then the derivation system should be freely available, to encourage subscription. Perhaps I am too cynical?</p>
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		By: The MacPuddock.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MacPuddock.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hey  24K&lt;br /&gt;Merci for the  tip. I  fiddled around  trying to  find a  way  of transferring the  text and  eventually  gave  up. Didn&#039;t think  of  putting in  the  URL. (Damn-in self  kick  mode)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey  24K<br />Merci for the  tip. I  fiddled around  trying to  find a  way  of transferring the  text and  eventually  gave  up. Didn&#39;t think  of  putting in  the  URL. (Damn-in self  kick  mode)</p>
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		By: wirplit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wirplit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thought this might be interesting Golem &lt;br /&gt;with reference to your comments about the U6 level of unemployment in the US a useful site for US economic data that is suggesting that even the broad U6 broad rate for unemployment is an underestimate and the true rate may already be well over 20%! . &lt;br /&gt; http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts ( sorry cant get link to work)&lt;br /&gt; If this is right then the rate is up with the worst in Europe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought this might be interesting Golem <br />with reference to your comments about the U6 level of unemployment in the US a useful site for US economic data that is suggesting that even the broad U6 broad rate for unemployment is an underestimate and the true rate may already be well over 20%! . <br /> <a href="http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts</a> ( sorry cant get link to work)<br /> If this is right then the rate is up with the worst in Europe.</p>
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