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		By: StevieFinn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wish I could be there on the 26th, here&#039;s hoping it goes well for you, I no doubt, will be sitting at home gnashing my teeth at the mainstream medias reaction &#038; the usual political bullshit &#038; hypocrisy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could be there on the 26th, here&#39;s hoping it goes well for you, I no doubt, will be sitting at home gnashing my teeth at the mainstream medias reaction &amp; the usual political bullshit &amp; hypocrisy.</p>
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		By: teri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for replying &#038; for the info Hawkeye. I will listen to that debate. G. Lira&#039;s blog is a fave of mine. &lt;br /&gt;Perhaps you will investigate these topics(hyperinflation vs deflation)in a future post? If so, don&#039;t hesitate as this is a worrying prospect either way.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks also for being so inclusive to those of us who have nothing to add in the way of wisdom(only questions!). Rock on, T]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for replying &amp; for the info Hawkeye. I will listen to that debate. G. Lira&#39;s blog is a fave of mine. <br />Perhaps you will investigate these topics(hyperinflation vs deflation)in a future post? If so, don&#39;t hesitate as this is a worrying prospect either way.<br />Thanks also for being so inclusive to those of us who have nothing to add in the way of wisdom(only questions!). Rock on, T</p>
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		By: Hawkeye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ myopia&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the feedback. I’m not affiliated with the CoR, or any other institution involved in the march. The post is aimed at trying to advise them to stay focussed on the specific issues in hand. Maybe they are saying that in order to balance the books the Gvt should cut specific parts of the defence budget (e.g. trident replacement) and spend on teaching and NHS instead. If this is the case then they are falling in to the very trap I was trying to get them to avoid. If they protest on these terms they are just going to look like “loony lefties”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the next few days I’m going to approach the CoR, UK UNCUT, 38 Degrees, and the Robin Hood Tax groups to put forward this advice. Without staying focussed on the root cause of the crisis, the protests will backfire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@ Dayzero&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are you referring to the Positive Money event on Friday at Oxford?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn’t go but got some feedback from a friend who went. He said that the debate was a bit disappointing, as only Ben Dyson was mentioning Full reserve Banking. If you want more feedback then let me know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ myopia</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback. I’m not affiliated with the CoR, or any other institution involved in the march. The post is aimed at trying to advise them to stay focussed on the specific issues in hand. Maybe they are saying that in order to balance the books the Gvt should cut specific parts of the defence budget (e.g. trident replacement) and spend on teaching and NHS instead. If this is the case then they are falling in to the very trap I was trying to get them to avoid. If they protest on these terms they are just going to look like “loony lefties”.</p>
<p>In the next few days I’m going to approach the CoR, UK UNCUT, 38 Degrees, and the Robin Hood Tax groups to put forward this advice. Without staying focussed on the root cause of the crisis, the protests will backfire.</p>
<p>@ Dayzero</p>
<p>Are you referring to the Positive Money event on Friday at Oxford?</p>
<p>I didn’t go but got some feedback from a friend who went. He said that the debate was a bit disappointing, as only Ben Dyson was mentioning Full reserve Banking. If you want more feedback then let me know.</p>
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		By: Hawkeye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ teri&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good to hear from you again! Shame you missed the film the other week. Will this end in Hyperinflation? Good question. There has been quite a lot of debate about Hyperinflation versus Deflation. This being the most intriguing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://financialsurvivalradio.com/024-who-won-the-debate-a-review-of-stoneleigh-vs-lira-deflation-vs-hyperinflation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deflation / Hyperinflation debate – Stoneleigh versus Lira&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, purchasing power gets destroyed in both scenarios. If the world stays on a Fiat money system then we probably will see rapid inflation &#038; hyperinflation. However, don’t rule out some form of asset backed world currency being unleashed at some point in the next 5-10 years. If that happens then we could see deflation, as the value of money is protected (e.g. through pegging to gold), but oh what a surprise the gold asset holdings are in the hands of transnational global elites.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ teri</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again! Shame you missed the film the other week. Will this end in Hyperinflation? Good question. There has been quite a lot of debate about Hyperinflation versus Deflation. This being the most intriguing:</p>
<p><a href="http://financialsurvivalradio.com/024-who-won-the-debate-a-review-of-stoneleigh-vs-lira-deflation-vs-hyperinflation/" rel="nofollow">Deflation / Hyperinflation debate – Stoneleigh versus Lira</a></p>
<p>Ultimately, purchasing power gets destroyed in both scenarios. If the world stays on a Fiat money system then we probably will see rapid inflation &amp; hyperinflation. However, don’t rule out some form of asset backed world currency being unleashed at some point in the next 5-10 years. If that happens then we could see deflation, as the value of money is protected (e.g. through pegging to gold), but oh what a surprise the gold asset holdings are in the hands of transnational global elites.</p>
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		By: richard in norway		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 01:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The macpuddock&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry bout getting your name wrong, but I still like the idea of an anti Murdoch site. He really is annoying, not least because all party leaders have to pay homage to him if they haven hope of being allowed to win an election. But also his support for the chinese regime really turns my stomach&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good luck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The macpuddock</p>
<p>Sorry bout getting your name wrong, but I still like the idea of an anti Murdoch site. He really is annoying, not least because all party leaders have to pay homage to him if they haven hope of being allowed to win an election. But also his support for the chinese regime really turns my stomach</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry bro, I got your name right last time though. I don&#039;t think Richard has ever got it right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to blow away the smoke and smash up de mirra.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel a bout of reggae coming on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry bro, I got your name right last time though. I don&#39;t think Richard has ever got it right.</p>
<p>We need to blow away the smoke and smash up de mirra.</p>
<p>I feel a bout of reggae coming on.</p>
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		By: The MacPuddock.		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/03/guest-post-by-hawkeye-crime-and-collective-punishment/#comment-3069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MacPuddock.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard  in  Norway and 24K. the  name  is  MacPuddock. A  puddock  is a  Scottish  frog.&lt;br /&gt;and  Purdock is  uncomfortably  close to  Murdoch.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No  I  am not  sure  I  know  how to set  up a  website although  expect  I could  find  out. I just  thought  it  might  make a  good  project so  I  paid  $8.95 to  register the  name. I  like the  idea  of a site  devoted to  agitating  for  people to stop  buying  Murdoch  products  ad  revealing the  cheapening  and damage effect  on  our  democracy and  cultural  values and   our  capacity  to  act  in a coherent way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is  the  Sun  still  boycotted  in Liverpool? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;24K&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  am  not  sure what  you  are  advocating-  more  direct  protest/action?&lt;br /&gt;I  guess  protest  is  good  but  it  is difficult to control  protests.&lt;br /&gt;I  guess  my  attitude  is that  we  must  break the  basic political  consensus  of  labour/tory first. &lt;br /&gt;Whatever  happens, there eventually   has  to  be a  voting  process  and that  process has  to  be  instrumental. Part  of the  problem we  are  facing  now   is that  voting  is  not  instrumental- Labour and  Tory  simply  accede  to some  higher  principle from  which the public  are effectively excluded. Debate  is  constrained within a  range  which  is  common  to  both parties. Ultimately  we  have to create a  debate  that  extends  beyond that. We  never  see  globalisation  discussed except  in some  rather  abstract  way by those  people who  define the  boundaries-technocrats.&lt;br /&gt;I  also  think we are  constrained  by the  principle that we  &#039;do  no  harm&#039;, and  exercising  a  vote  is a safe way  to  &#039;do  no  harm&#039;. Legality  is another  issue  but  breaking with legality  unleashes  other  forces, which  undermine and  obscures the  legitimacy  of  the  protests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard  in  Norway and 24K. the  name  is  MacPuddock. A  puddock  is a  Scottish  frog.<br />and  Purdock is  uncomfortably  close to  Murdoch.</p>
<p>No  I  am not  sure  I  know  how to set  up a  website although  expect  I could  find  out. I just  thought  it  might  make a  good  project so  I  paid  $8.95 to  register the  name. I  like the  idea  of a site  devoted to  agitating  for  people to stop  buying  Murdoch  products  ad  revealing the  cheapening  and damage effect  on  our  democracy and  cultural  values and   our  capacity  to  act  in a coherent way. </p>
<p>Is  the  Sun  still  boycotted  in Liverpool? </p>
<p>24K</p>
<p>I  am  not  sure what  you  are  advocating-  more  direct  protest/action?<br />I  guess  protest  is  good  but  it  is difficult to control  protests.<br />I  guess  my  attitude  is that  we  must  break the  basic political  consensus  of  labour/tory first. <br />Whatever  happens, there eventually   has  to  be a  voting  process  and that  process has  to  be  instrumental. Part  of the  problem we  are  facing  now   is that  voting  is  not  instrumental- Labour and  Tory  simply  accede  to some  higher  principle from  which the public  are effectively excluded. Debate  is  constrained within a  range  which  is  common  to  both parties. Ultimately  we  have to create a  debate  that  extends  beyond that. We  never  see  globalisation  discussed except  in some  rather  abstract  way by those  people who  define the  boundaries-technocrats.<br />I  also  think we are  constrained  by the  principle that we  &#39;do  no  harm&#39;, and  exercising  a  vote  is a safe way  to  &#39;do  no  harm&#39;. Legality  is another  issue  but  breaking with legality  unleashes  other  forces, which  undermine and  obscures the  legitimacy  of  the  protests.</p>
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		By: richard in norway		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[macpurdock&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;is your murdofuckation.com up and running yet?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>macpurdock</p>
<p>is your murdofuckation.com up and running yet?</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 13:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I ever need a nail hit on the head I&#039;ll give you a call dude.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Anybody coming to the march must look about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;They Live&lt;/a&gt; world and think about what their own brainfill advertising campaign will be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MacPaddock, just because we vote them in doesn&#039;t mean they are there to do our bidding. If I own a share in Sony I don&#039;t have that much say in what the PS4 will be or where the company is heading in the future. We are listed as a company. If it was our choice we would have referendums all the time surely? That&#039;s why we&#039;re having a referendum on AV, because it doesn&#039;t mean feck all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It makes sense to me that with the abundance of energy we&#039;ve had they had to unshackle themselves being the addicts they are, seeing the possibilties and knowing that rallies don&#039;t last forever. They were on it like a ghetto kid on Reagan crack. I still can&#039;t figure out how they can come out in the daytime though&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I found a TUC countdown widget &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/countdown-pro/tuc-anti-cuts-march-countdown&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;20 days 21 hours 14 mins 00 secs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever need a nail hit on the head I&#39;ll give you a call dude.</p>
<p>Anybody coming to the march must look about the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs" rel="nofollow">They Live</a> world and think about what their own brainfill advertising campaign will be.</p>
<p>MacPaddock, just because we vote them in doesn&#39;t mean they are there to do our bidding. If I own a share in Sony I don&#39;t have that much say in what the PS4 will be or where the company is heading in the future. We are listed as a company. If it was our choice we would have referendums all the time surely? That&#39;s why we&#39;re having a referendum on AV, because it doesn&#39;t mean feck all.</p>
<p>It makes sense to me that with the abundance of energy we&#39;ve had they had to unshackle themselves being the addicts they are, seeing the possibilties and knowing that rallies don&#39;t last forever. They were on it like a ghetto kid on Reagan crack. I still can&#39;t figure out how they can come out in the daytime though</p>
<p>I found a TUC countdown widget <a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/countdown-pro/tuc-anti-cuts-march-countdown" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> </p>
<p>20 days 21 hours 14 mins 00 secs</p>
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		By: dayzero		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 13:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;I think we live in a travesty of democracy. &#034;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While our glorious leaders call for systemic destabilization, mob rule and military coups in the middle east [not that I&#039;m an apologist for any regime]..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..They appear intent on destroying our own nation states with the usurious voodoonomics giga-heist ponzi plan.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great post btw. Hawkeye.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am enjoying Debt Generation too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder how the debate at Oxford went?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I think we live in a travesty of democracy. &quot;</p>
<p>While our glorious leaders call for systemic destabilization, mob rule and military coups in the middle east [not that I&#39;m an apologist for any regime]..</p>
<p>..They appear intent on destroying our own nation states with the usurious voodoonomics giga-heist ponzi plan&#8230;..</p>
<p>Great post btw. Hawkeye.</p>
<p>Am enjoying Debt Generation too.</p>
<p>I wonder how the debate at Oxford went?</p>
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