Comments on: Meanwhile in Bahrain

By: Qerberos

Qerberos — Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:14:35 +0000

The troops entering Bahrain are an overt US/Saudi action, a response to the covert Iranian stirring of the Shia uprising.

Furthermore Yemeni snipers are murdering citizens from rooftops. Again, Saudi backed and you might say tacitly US supported.

Meanwhile over in Libya the situation is opposite - the US is supporting the rebels. Sheepishly. It is not taking a primary role. Wonder why?

US Double standards? Of course.

By: Unclear

Unclear — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:44:58 +0000

Re King,

Absobloodylutely typical!

The moment he expresses his own opinion, he's accused of being politicised. While he was being Brown/Balls's poodle, he wasn't?

Adam Posen is yet another legacy of Brown we'd be far better off without.

Thanks for the Allende debate, not a piece of history I knew anything about. Interesting stuff.

By: dave from france

dave from france — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:31:04 +0000

Golem — on King, perhaps not so much a lack of 'courage' as scales finally dropping from the eyes ?

By: Golem XIV - Thoughts

Golem XIV - Thoughts — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:44:48 +0000

thrawn pop,

I am not asserting that the truth did not happen only that the man didn't decide to do this on a whim. A person has to have a compelling and desperate reason to shoot himself. What was that reason? I maintain that he knew if he didn't kill himself there were others, paid for by the CIA, drawing a ring around him, who were ready to do a lot worse to him.

I simply do not feel truth is served by claiming, as some have done, taht this is suicide. It is suicide only in so far as he pulled the trigger. But the circumsatnces of his demise seem to me to be more accurately described as an assassintaion. He and his governemtn were removed with teh violent support of the CIA.

Many of Allende's supporters and close allies as well as many other prominent people were spirited out fo the country to prevent them being murdered.

Like you, and I thank you for you advice - I take it fully - I see no need to indulge in conspiracy theories. They weaken the truth. But the truth is not confined to the official denials and accepted narrative. The CIA's leading role in Allende's death is a fact and does not need any theory, conspiracy or otherwise, to obscure it.

The UK intelligence services knew what was going on and who was doing it. MI6 had people on active service on teh ground during Allende's assassination and his elected government's overthrow. So did the CIA. So did at least one other country which was directly involved and has been since throughout the blood leeting in South and Central America.

By: john

john — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:25:36 +0000

Lets not forget that Hitler too was funded by the american intelligence elite through funds organised by GWs grandad, ostensibly as a bulwark against Stalin, but as a plus it bankrupted the UK and opened up the empire to American trade, and facilitated the wholesale movement of european scientific know how to a relatively backward US.

By: thrawn pop

thrawn pop — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:25:05 +0000

Allende shot himself, alone, with his collaborators and key staff just metres away, having just been told to move on ahead out the room where Allende remained. There is no doubt about this point at all. By asserting that this may not have happened, you begin to flirt with the swivel-eyed conspiracy theorists. Please don't go there, as you don't want to give your enemies any ammunitition with which to discredit the other 99.9% of your posts.

By: Golem XIV - Thoughts

Golem XIV - Thoughts — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:11:43 +0000

Dear Mr Eirik,

It is always good to hear from you. I am glad you liked the conjecture. He's getting ready for his retirement from the bank and obviously feeling a little freer. Shame he didn't have the courage earlier.

By: Lars Eirik

Lars Eirik — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:33:35 +0000

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/8384189/Bank-of-England-court-worried-about-Mervyn-Kings-politicised-role.html

So, will they be able to shut up "our" man inside the Establisment, Mr. King, the man who recently told the British the naked truth that the cuts in public services actually is the people of GB paying for the banking elite's excesses and folly, paying their debts as it were?

Keep up the good work, David! Maybe the image of the two vortices spinning in opposite directions was a bit far-fetched, but your "conjecture" about the two currencies, the cash and the debt/bank created one, inflation in the one and deflation in the other, should earn you the Nobel prize if developed further and empirically tested. Mervyn King maybe reads it too… Really impressive also the quality of your followers postings on the site.

By: MrShigemitsu

MrShigemitsu — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 00:07:22 +0000

Cash212:

"Allende was not aligned with America's core principles and was likely being supported by a powerful enemy of the United States and an Evil Empire."

Some evidence of that support, please?
Chile was an independent country, thousands of miles away from the USA, on a different continent. What right did the CIA have to bring down their government?

"In retrospect, it seems that Allende's assassination was the best thing that happened to Chile."

Tell that to the 3000 disaparecidos and their relatives.
And you lot whine about the other 9/11....

By: Golem XIV - Thoughts

Golem XIV - Thoughts — Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:09:56 +0000

Sean,

just read your earlier correction. Sean I really don't mind being corrected at all. But the corrections need to be correct. There are sunni and Shia and there are tnesions between them in Saudi. Please just look it up. As for Allende, if we're defining 'assassinated' as physically being the ones who pulled the trigger then you may want to say the CIA didn't do it. But to me, arranging and paying for it and making sure they had CIA men on the ground who made sure he could not get away and were tasked with making sure he died if those who had been given the task somehow failed - to me that counts as assassinated.

And the CIA did do all that.