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		By: Sheergeexpace		</title>
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		By: mohenko		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/03/the-search-for-yield-mr-king-shouts-a-warning/#comment-3111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mohenko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Hawkeye,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;am appreciating the real education I&#039;m getting here, thanks for contributing.&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s all helping to focus the rage that&#039;s shaking me from my englamoured slumber. And I&#039;m now seeing that fighting the kleptocracy has two sides: fighting against that which is reducing us, and fighting for that which can support us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d still like to know where the QE money has gone: who has got richer these past few years? Then the austerity the many have to suffer can be contrasted, in concrete terms, with the benefits the few have reaped. Even better if it could be displayed graphically, e.g. http://www.gapminder.org/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More power to all who reveal the lies ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hawkeye,</p>
<p>am appreciating the real education I&#39;m getting here, thanks for contributing.<br />It&#39;s all helping to focus the rage that&#39;s shaking me from my englamoured slumber. And I&#39;m now seeing that fighting the kleptocracy has two sides: fighting against that which is reducing us, and fighting for that which can support us.</p>
<p>I&#39;d still like to know where the QE money has gone: who has got richer these past few years? Then the austerity the many have to suffer can be contrasted, in concrete terms, with the benefits the few have reaped. Even better if it could be displayed graphically, e.g. <a href="http://www.gapminder.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gapminder.org/</a></p>
<p>More power to all who reveal the lies ..</p>
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		By: The MacPuddock.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MacPuddock.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oops  &lt;br /&gt;sloughing=ploughing&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not  sure  how that  one  slipped through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops  <br />sloughing=ploughing</p>
<p>Not  sure  how that  one  slipped through.</p>
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		By: The MacPuddock.		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/03/the-search-for-yield-mr-king-shouts-a-warning/#comment-3104</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MacPuddock.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi  hawkeye &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your perceptions are getting trenchant. I  too  think we are  in some  kind of  &#039;last  chance  saloon&#039;  with respect to  the  idea of coherent  democracy. If there  is  no  collective  assertive response to the mauling and  dissembling people are receiving  in  order to  prop  up a destructive economic dogma then  we are  more  or  less  acceding to a life as either privileged slaves  or &#039;the  abandoned&#039;, within a degrading social  and  physical  environment.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the UK is one of the critical places where a rejection of these roles might happen that could make a difference. I think the  UK  is going to  be  critical because the  government  is an unstable, &#039;best guess&#039;  choice out  of  a  bunch  of  rotten  apples and  Nulab is still  in some  disarray and growing disrepute,  and  its  leader  is really  quite  stuck and  uninspiring.&lt;br /&gt;The  policies  of the  coalition  are  extreme  and  risk  serious fall-out, much  worse than  they  need to  be. I sense the  Labour  party  are waiting  for a  major  &#039;slip&#039;  or  event  to  pounce,  rather being pro-active( i.e.  politically  honest) but they  are political  opportunists  of exactly the same  kind as the  coalition and  exactly  as   they  were  in the  Blair  era.&lt;br /&gt;Their dishonesty really needs to be exposed by people like yourself and David.  &lt;br /&gt;They are not an opposition; they are simply the reserve team operating within an enclosed detached system. &lt;br /&gt;I  have already  said that  we  first  have to  break the  duopoly of power and the  easiest, least  painful way  is for  lots  of unaligned people to  be  elected. I think  this  is  the  purpose  of the  blog  here-it is  ahead  of the mainstream  and  is  partly   shaping  debate, not  just  getting  in  beforehand  and  politically  energising a   lot  of  people who might  not  otherwise  have  spoken  up.   &lt;br /&gt;I am also pretty sure there are some very anonymous big-hit lurkers who are taking their cues from blogs, including this one.&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;I was thinking that David probably needs to consider how to get elected somewhere.&lt;br /&gt;           &lt;br /&gt;I think David is sloughing quite a lonely furrow but doing a fantastic job. I  can  see  how  it  might  be  quite personally  demanding but  rest  assured,  it  is  much  appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi  hawkeye </p>
<p>Your perceptions are getting trenchant. I  too  think we are  in some  kind of  &#39;last  chance  saloon&#39;  with respect to  the  idea of coherent  democracy. If there  is  no  collective  assertive response to the mauling and  dissembling people are receiving  in  order to  prop  up a destructive economic dogma then  we are  more  or  less  acceding to a life as either privileged slaves  or &#39;the  abandoned&#39;, within a degrading social  and  physical  environment.  </p>
<p>And the UK is one of the critical places where a rejection of these roles might happen that could make a difference. I think the  UK  is going to  be  critical because the  government  is an unstable, &#39;best guess&#39;  choice out  of  a  bunch  of  rotten  apples and  Nulab is still  in some  disarray and growing disrepute,  and  its  leader  is really  quite  stuck and  uninspiring.<br />The  policies  of the  coalition  are  extreme  and  risk  serious fall-out, much  worse than  they  need to  be. I sense the  Labour  party  are waiting  for a  major  &#39;slip&#39;  or  event  to  pounce,  rather being pro-active( i.e.  politically  honest) but they  are political  opportunists  of exactly the same  kind as the  coalition and  exactly  as   they  were  in the  Blair  era.<br />Their dishonesty really needs to be exposed by people like yourself and David.  <br />They are not an opposition; they are simply the reserve team operating within an enclosed detached system. <br />I  have already  said that  we  first  have to  break the  duopoly of power and the  easiest, least  painful way  is for  lots  of unaligned people to  be  elected. I think  this  is  the  purpose  of the  blog  here-it is  ahead  of the mainstream  and  is  partly   shaping  debate, not  just  getting  in  beforehand  and  politically  energising a   lot  of  people who might  not  otherwise  have  spoken  up.   <br />I am also pretty sure there are some very anonymous big-hit lurkers who are taking their cues from blogs, including this one.</p>
<p>I was thinking that David probably needs to consider how to get elected somewhere.</p>
<p>I think David is sloughing quite a lonely furrow but doing a fantastic job. I  can  see  how  it  might  be  quite personally  demanding but  rest  assured,  it  is  much  appreciated.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/03/the-search-for-yield-mr-king-shouts-a-warning/#comment-3100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We move closer to a bhive or termite mound way of operating but instead of pheremones we&#039;re controlled by memes some are lies some true and some just distractions. Our politicians are groupthunked by organisations like the bilderburgers common purpose and demos. Academia is more to do with elbows and troughs than real knowledge. Who wouldn&#039;t have a bad day now and then. This blog and its comments are a beacon thanks golem]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We move closer to a bhive or termite mound way of operating but instead of pheremones we&#39;re controlled by memes some are lies some true and some just distractions. Our politicians are groupthunked by organisations like the bilderburgers common purpose and demos. Academia is more to do with elbows and troughs than real knowledge. Who wouldn&#39;t have a bad day now and then. This blog and its comments are a beacon thanks golem</p>
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		By: Hawkeye		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/03/the-search-for-yield-mr-king-shouts-a-warning/#comment-3099</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hawkeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@mohenko&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There probably isn&#039;t one locus of control and power, although many voices take aim at the moneyed powers behind the Central Banks (e.g. Rothschilds / JP Morgan etc.).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d say it&#039;s more about who can siphon off profits from a huge cash flow generating mechanism, regardless of the system or structure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The early crude forms of this Asymmetric Accumulation resorted to violence and intimidation (think early empires and current Middle East dictators extracting enormous wealth through tribute). The 20th Century brought us a different form: the Military Industrial Complex (think Boeing, Haliburton, big Oil etc), as a backlash against the Post War Social Democratic experiment (whereby power concentration was briefly tempered by an enlightened and empowered majority). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This period of relative harmony could be shortlived, however, as the latest incarnation of power control is more subtle. But ultimately aimed at restoring the feudalistic power structure, once again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First there is the Predator State: the parasite that feeds off the tax system. James Galbraith explains how the prime function of the State then, is as collector of taxes and enforcer of private contracts and social compliance (all in the name of Social Democracy, of course), whilst the spoils are then doled out to the private sector.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, we are seeing even greater pillaging of the lower &#038; middle class with the rising financialisation and the utter enforcement of debt contracts now emboldening those who favour &#034;Indentured Servitude&#034; as the cash cow of choice. Michael Hudson calls this the Counter Enlightenment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Same ultimate end-game, just different operating methods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mohenko</p>
<p>There probably isn&#39;t one locus of control and power, although many voices take aim at the moneyed powers behind the Central Banks (e.g. Rothschilds / JP Morgan etc.).</p>
<p>I&#39;d say it&#39;s more about who can siphon off profits from a huge cash flow generating mechanism, regardless of the system or structure.</p>
<p>The early crude forms of this Asymmetric Accumulation resorted to violence and intimidation (think early empires and current Middle East dictators extracting enormous wealth through tribute). The 20th Century brought us a different form: the Military Industrial Complex (think Boeing, Haliburton, big Oil etc), as a backlash against the Post War Social Democratic experiment (whereby power concentration was briefly tempered by an enlightened and empowered majority). </p>
<p>This period of relative harmony could be shortlived, however, as the latest incarnation of power control is more subtle. But ultimately aimed at restoring the feudalistic power structure, once again.</p>
<p>First there is the Predator State: the parasite that feeds off the tax system. James Galbraith explains how the prime function of the State then, is as collector of taxes and enforcer of private contracts and social compliance (all in the name of Social Democracy, of course), whilst the spoils are then doled out to the private sector.</p>
<p>Secondly, we are seeing even greater pillaging of the lower &amp; middle class with the rising financialisation and the utter enforcement of debt contracts now emboldening those who favour &quot;Indentured Servitude&quot; as the cash cow of choice. Michael Hudson calls this the Counter Enlightenment.</p>
<p>Same ultimate end-game, just different operating methods.</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A common law cout de ta &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.raymondstclair.com/featured/british-tax-protesters-arrest-judge-act-lawful-rebellion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common law cout de ta <a href="http://www.raymondstclair.com/featured/british-tax-protesters-arrest-judge-act-lawful-rebellion/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>
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		By: David Lloyd		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Lloyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@GoPugYou&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;ll make no friends telling Brits to lay off the tea. I&#039;d pass up on oxygen first thanks mate :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;@Golem&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry to hear you&#039;re having a bad day. It must be tough to keep driving this message home and then see that little or nothing changes. Following your work helps me to avoid getting looped in to the mindless journalism spouted by the mainstream media. You should be giving yourself a massive pat on the back that Mervin King largely agrees with your analysis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think that the reason QE has been relatively non-inflationary is down to the fact that in a system were debt is money, deleveraging of households and companies (as now appears to be happening) will inevitably lead to shrinkage in the money supply and hence deflation? The people running QE probably know that if the general populace had deflationary expections it would only lead to further deleveraging and those expectations being fulfilled. In that situation the overhang of public sector borrowing becomes doubly toxic and systemic failure unavoidable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GoPugYou</p>
<p>You&#39;ll make no friends telling Brits to lay off the tea. I&#39;d pass up on oxygen first thanks mate 🙂</p>
<p>@Golem</p>
<p>Sorry to hear you&#39;re having a bad day. It must be tough to keep driving this message home and then see that little or nothing changes. Following your work helps me to avoid getting looped in to the mindless journalism spouted by the mainstream media. You should be giving yourself a massive pat on the back that Mervin King largely agrees with your analysis.</p>
<p>Do you think that the reason QE has been relatively non-inflationary is down to the fact that in a system were debt is money, deleveraging of households and companies (as now appears to be happening) will inevitably lead to shrinkage in the money supply and hence deflation? The people running QE probably know that if the general populace had deflationary expections it would only lead to further deleveraging and those expectations being fulfilled. In that situation the overhang of public sector borrowing becomes doubly toxic and systemic failure unavoidable.</p>
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		By: GoPug		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GoPug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re all tilting at windmills.  Real action is what&#039;s needed.  Boycott the fucking banks.  Boycott the big corporations.  Boycott your governments.  Vote Anti-Incumbent EACH AND EVERY TIME!  Impede TPTB smooth existence in any small way you can.  You don&#039;t have to blow stuff up.  Just use your mind and fight the bastards.  Pick something you love that does nothing but create profit for a big corporation and stop using/buying it.  For you english... stop drinking tea!  I haven&#039;t had a coca-cola product since the early &#039;80&#039;s.  I stopped shopping at Walmart shortly after Sam Walton died.  These are easy things to do.  You don&#039;t need tea.  I don&#039;t need to go to Walmart.  I don&#039;t need to drink Coke!  This crazy propaganda broad&#039;s in the Gaurdian?!  WELL STOP BUYING THE FUCKING GAURDIAN!  If Angela Knight comes into your establishment - tell her to get the fuck out!  Do something - anything.&lt;br /&gt;saynotocorporateamerica.blogspot.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;re all tilting at windmills.  Real action is what&#39;s needed.  Boycott the fucking banks.  Boycott the big corporations.  Boycott your governments.  Vote Anti-Incumbent EACH AND EVERY TIME!  Impede TPTB smooth existence in any small way you can.  You don&#39;t have to blow stuff up.  Just use your mind and fight the bastards.  Pick something you love that does nothing but create profit for a big corporation and stop using/buying it.  For you english&#8230; stop drinking tea!  I haven&#39;t had a coca-cola product since the early &#39;80&#39;s.  I stopped shopping at Walmart shortly after Sam Walton died.  These are easy things to do.  You don&#39;t need tea.  I don&#39;t need to go to Walmart.  I don&#39;t need to drink Coke!  This crazy propaganda broad&#39;s in the Gaurdian?!  WELL STOP BUYING THE FUCKING GAURDIAN!  If Angela Knight comes into your establishment &#8211; tell her to get the fuck out!  Do something &#8211; anything.<br />saynotocorporateamerica.blogspot.com</p>
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		By: mohenko		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mohenko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Golem, glad I can give a little back. It’s no wonder you get low days, wading through the morass of mendacity to give us your illuminations. Your work is inspirational.&lt;br /&gt;What brought me to this blog was the question: where has all the (QE) money gone? And this is the one place I have found that gives me a clue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I still want to know is: Who has the money gone to? Names, not just ‘senior bond holders’ etc. And this is important to me because then I will have more than just an abstract entity to relate to. Because this “Financial Crisis” (WMD, anyone?), in the scale and depth of its asset transfer from one group to another, is in practise more akin to warfare. And it’s utterly asymmetric - the target has been, very specifically, the personal wealth of ordinary public service users: me and you - but who in fact is benefiting? Wars against the abstract never work (wars against drugs, terror, poverty), so where can I find the names of the bastards that are fighting us? Or has the glittering spectre that has been devouring public assets (utilities and infrastructure), and now public services (hospitals, schools) for the past generation, which we must now subsidise for our own good, become so insane that it will eat itself?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In which case we can all go home and back to our comic books. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, thanks for the chance to toss my brass farthing into the ring, Steady as you go ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Golem, glad I can give a little back. It’s no wonder you get low days, wading through the morass of mendacity to give us your illuminations. Your work is inspirational.<br />What brought me to this blog was the question: where has all the (QE) money gone? And this is the one place I have found that gives me a clue.</p>
<p>What I still want to know is: Who has the money gone to? Names, not just ‘senior bond holders’ etc. And this is important to me because then I will have more than just an abstract entity to relate to. Because this “Financial Crisis” (WMD, anyone?), in the scale and depth of its asset transfer from one group to another, is in practise more akin to warfare. And it’s utterly asymmetric &#8211; the target has been, very specifically, the personal wealth of ordinary public service users: me and you &#8211; but who in fact is benefiting? Wars against the abstract never work (wars against drugs, terror, poverty), so where can I find the names of the bastards that are fighting us? Or has the glittering spectre that has been devouring public assets (utilities and infrastructure), and now public services (hospitals, schools) for the past generation, which we must now subsidise for our own good, become so insane that it will eat itself?</p>
<p>In which case we can all go home and back to our comic books. </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the chance to toss my brass farthing into the ring, Steady as you go &#8230;</p>
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