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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 10:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know how you feel. I think we all do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I know how you feel. I think we all do.</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 09:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Golum, @Pat @wirplit  I swear, you guys! I dunno, I think I threw up my breakfast, I dunno, I was blaming the dog I don&#039;t have, my son woke me up on the couch, holy crap, what a way to start a day. Its two days later, I&#039;m back at the scene of the crime and wirplit posts that link. I&#039;m done, I&#039;m finding sand for my head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Golum, @Pat @wirplit  I swear, you guys! I dunno, I think I threw up my breakfast, I dunno, I was blaming the dog I don&#39;t have, my son woke me up on the couch, holy crap, what a way to start a day. Its two days later, I&#39;m back at the scene of the crime and wirplit posts that link. I&#39;m done, I&#39;m finding sand for my head.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV - Thoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I laughed and then I cried and then I laughed again before having to go and lie down for a while.  I would say thanks for making clear just how..how...how I can&#039;t even find the word... but I&#039;m not sure that &#039;thanks&#039; is right either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I laughed and then I cried and then I laughed again before having to go and lie down for a while.  I would say thanks for making clear just how..how&#8230;how I can&#39;t even find the word&#8230; but I&#39;m not sure that &#39;thanks&#39; is right either.</p>
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		By: Mark Wadsworth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wadsworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interestingly, &#034;muni&#034; is a word used in Switzerland for &#034;bull&#034; (the animal).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Pat highlights above is the same the world over. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labour came up with these PFI scheme because they said the private sector was cheaper or more efficient (which it probably is). The problem is the private sector is also better at negotiating than the government and so the taxpayer ended up overpaying enormously for the same old crap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, these PFI deals ended up being highly leveraged, so after the credit crunch, they didn&#039;t make profits for the lucky winners of contracts. So Mandelson said (in all seriousness) the government should offer the PFI providers taxpayer subsidised low interest loans as well just to keep the Ponzi scheme going.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;FFS, if the PFI people can only provide things more cheaply if they are given subsidies, then the whole thing is a joke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, &quot;muni&quot; is a word used in Switzerland for &quot;bull&quot; (the animal).</p>
<p>What Pat highlights above is the same the world over. </p>
<p>Labour came up with these PFI scheme because they said the private sector was cheaper or more efficient (which it probably is). The problem is the private sector is also better at negotiating than the government and so the taxpayer ended up overpaying enormously for the same old crap.</p>
<p>Of course, these PFI deals ended up being highly leveraged, so after the credit crunch, they didn&#39;t make profits for the lucky winners of contracts. So Mandelson said (in all seriousness) the government should offer the PFI providers taxpayer subsidised low interest loans as well just to keep the Ponzi scheme going.</p>
<p>FFS, if the PFI people can only provide things more cheaply if they are given subsidies, then the whole thing is a joke.</p>
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		By: wirplit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wirplit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 10:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Germans seems to have the idea ( although its hard to tell from here) that they are somehow more virtuous than the rest of Europe especially those pesky southerners. Your brilliant uncovering work undermines that jolly lederhosen viewpoint. I hope Angela is reading it.&lt;br /&gt;By the way Have you seen this? A rundown on likely events &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/andrewlilico/100010332/what-happens-when-greece-defaults/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What happens when Greece defaults&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Germans seems to have the idea ( although its hard to tell from here) that they are somehow more virtuous than the rest of Europe especially those pesky southerners. Your brilliant uncovering work undermines that jolly lederhosen viewpoint. I hope Angela is reading it.<br />By the way Have you seen this? A rundown on likely events <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/andrewlilico/100010332/what-happens-when-greece-defaults/" rel="nofollow">What happens when Greece defaults</a></p>
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		By: allcoppedout		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allcoppedout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 00:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In all this, it has become hugely expensive to do simple things, as we have to pay &#039;professionals&#039; for almost non-existent services like conveyancing and estate agency - let alone £200K a year to not deal very effectively with &#039;nuisance families&#039;.  It&#039;s like playing Monopoly with a banker who&#039;s brought in secret stash of Monopoly money in his back pocket, whilst betting real money on the outcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all this, it has become hugely expensive to do simple things, as we have to pay &#39;professionals&#39; for almost non-existent services like conveyancing and estate agency &#8211; let alone £200K a year to not deal very effectively with &#39;nuisance families&#39;.  It&#39;s like playing Monopoly with a banker who&#39;s brought in secret stash of Monopoly money in his back pocket, whilst betting real money on the outcome.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/05/are-german-banks-in-worse-shape-than-the-french/#comment-3868</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV - Thoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pat, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good grief Pat! What a sordid example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, </p>
<p>Good grief Pat! What a sordid example.</p>
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		By: bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 14:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As ever Golem your understatement amuses me. The point is that all the formerly AAA rated Greek junk has been used as collatoral for God knows how many more loans and is, of course, on these banks&#039; books marked to model.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greece is a minnow in world terms, a tadpole in a large pond. Yet the domino effect of such a small player failing is palpable. I have to ask is it a race between the US and EU to crash their currency first.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The whole financial world seems to be a competion measured in high farce.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;bill40]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever Golem your understatement amuses me. The point is that all the formerly AAA rated Greek junk has been used as collatoral for God knows how many more loans and is, of course, on these banks&#39; books marked to model.</p>
<p>Greece is a minnow in world terms, a tadpole in a large pond. Yet the domino effect of such a small player failing is palpable. I have to ask is it a race between the US and EU to crash their currency first.</p>
<p>The whole financial world seems to be a competion measured in high farce.</p>
<p>bill40</p>
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		By: myopia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myopia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 09:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess however it will be politically more acceptable for the Germans to bail out their own banks than to bail out Greece&#039;s crony state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess however it will be politically more acceptable for the Germans to bail out their own banks than to bail out Greece&#39;s crony state.</p>
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		By: Pat Flannery		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Flannery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 05:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Golem,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A personal experience I had in the San Diego City Council Chamber a few years ago would tend to confirm your suspicions. I was giving public testimony against a $102m &#034;lease-lease&#034; bond the City was proposing to issue. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lease-lease is where a city creates &#034;revenue&#034; to support a phony revenue bond by leasing something back to itself. In that particular case the City of San Diego was leasing back a number of its municipal water pumping stations to itself and servicing the bond debt through increased water rates. The $102m was just one of many. It had already &#034;leased&#034; its police stations, bridges, you name it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I approached the bond counsel who had just testified before City Council that this was perfectly legal and that every city in America was doing it. I asked him how in the world the bond markets would buy such junk. He smilingly told me that the money came from the Fed through foreign banks. In other words financial insiders like himself knew that there were fortunes to be made peddling these phony municipal bonds to foreign banks who were borrowing the money from the United States Federal Reserve.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then these insiders have funded the Presidential campaign of an apparent black reformer, who is really their Harvard and Yale trained puppet, who then appointed another trained puppet, Tim Geightner, as Treasury Secretary. In other words a financial coup d&#039;état.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the dollar is strengthening and the euro weakening as the same market insiders pick the winners - Wall Street of course. They now  control the full economic power of the American Government plus its military. These guys play to win. And the Euro is not in trouble?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golem,</p>
<p>A personal experience I had in the San Diego City Council Chamber a few years ago would tend to confirm your suspicions. I was giving public testimony against a $102m &quot;lease-lease&quot; bond the City was proposing to issue. </p>
<p>Lease-lease is where a city creates &quot;revenue&quot; to support a phony revenue bond by leasing something back to itself. In that particular case the City of San Diego was leasing back a number of its municipal water pumping stations to itself and servicing the bond debt through increased water rates. The $102m was just one of many. It had already &quot;leased&quot; its police stations, bridges, you name it.</p>
<p>I approached the bond counsel who had just testified before City Council that this was perfectly legal and that every city in America was doing it. I asked him how in the world the bond markets would buy such junk. He smilingly told me that the money came from the Fed through foreign banks. In other words financial insiders like himself knew that there were fortunes to be made peddling these phony municipal bonds to foreign banks who were borrowing the money from the United States Federal Reserve.</p>
<p>Since then these insiders have funded the Presidential campaign of an apparent black reformer, who is really their Harvard and Yale trained puppet, who then appointed another trained puppet, Tim Geightner, as Treasury Secretary. In other words a financial coup d&#39;état.</p>
<p>Now the dollar is strengthening and the euro weakening as the same market insiders pick the winners &#8211; Wall Street of course. They now  control the full economic power of the American Government plus its military. These guys play to win. And the Euro is not in trouble?</p>
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