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		By: Thom		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-5214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve since found that post, thanks.
I should have looked harder first...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve since found that post, thanks.<br />
I should have looked harder first&#8230;</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-5213</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Thom.

If you are asking what I think you&#039;re aksing then you might find the post I wrote called &quot;Who are the bond holders we are bailing out?&quot; of interest.  You can find it on the front page of the blog under &quot;Featured posts&quot; .  Or if I&#039;ve misunderstood your question get back to me. But I am going to bed soon. Long day and I&#039;m out till Friday pm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Thom.</p>
<p>If you are asking what I think you&#8217;re aksing then you might find the post I wrote called &#8220;Who are the bond holders we are bailing out?&#8221; of interest.  You can find it on the front page of the blog under &#8220;Featured posts&#8221; .  Or if I&#8217;ve misunderstood your question get back to me. But I am going to bed soon. Long day and I&#8217;m out till Friday pm.</p>
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		By: Thom		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-5212</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Golem, saw this linked on politicalworld forum.

How much of Irish bank debt covered by the guarantee was owed by the banks to european financial institutions ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Golem, saw this linked on politicalworld forum.</p>
<p>How much of Irish bank debt covered by the guarantee was owed by the banks to european financial institutions ?</p>
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		By: Sell your house fast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sell your house fast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing your ideas and thoughts, i like your blog and bookmark this blog for further use thanks &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;again... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libertyigloo.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Selling home tips&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your ideas and thoughts, i like your blog and bookmark this blog for further use thanks </p>
<p>again&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.libertyigloo.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Selling home tips</a></p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve just been reading a devastating piece by Michael Hudson (http://michael-hudson.com/2011/07/the-euthanasia-of-industry/ ). Going well beyond its title, it compares Obama to Blair and talks (among other things)about him &#034;delivering&#034; his constituency to his (Wall Street) campaign contributors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, one more necessary measure to add to the mix: cut the financial link between corporations and parties/politicians. Easier said than done, I know, but politics will be in the pocket of financial interests until the link is cut.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve just been reading a devastating piece by Michael Hudson (<a href="http://michael-hudson.com/2011/07/the-euthanasia-of-industry/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://michael-hudson.com/2011/07/the-euthanasia-of-industry/</a> ). Going well beyond its title, it compares Obama to Blair and talks (among other things)about him &quot;delivering&quot; his constituency to his (Wall Street) campaign contributors.</p>
<p>So, one more necessary measure to add to the mix: cut the financial link between corporations and parties/politicians. Easier said than done, I know, but politics will be in the pocket of financial interests until the link is cut.</p>
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		By: BobRocket		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-4396</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neil,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no objections to 1. Full Reserve Banking although given house prices only reached the dizzy multiples they did due to &#039;overenthusiastic&#039; lending policies I can see lots of vested interests not being too happy as one outcome may be a reduction in asset prices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No. 2 Land Value Tax, I quite like this one but for it to be accepted it would have to be an open and transparent system where anybody can work out the tax liability of any given piece of land and not subject to political influence.&lt;br /&gt;One fly in the ointment of such a system might be where TPTB decide (possibly democratically) that a new motorway and junction should be built in my vicinity, I personally might lose amenity (more traffic/building in my vicinity) whereas my Land Tax might rise due to my area becoming more accessible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Tobin Tax, not sure this is required if there is both 1. and 2. implemented.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trillion-dollar question - convince the current vested interests that it is in their interests to implement them, business as usual is what worked for them in the past and they see little incentive to change at the moment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only way to get these interests to even consider change is to demonstrate the outcome of an attempt to return to BAU ie. a total collapse where even they will suffer (under BAU it has only been those in the middle and bottom who suffered)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The economy will have to be pushed right to the very edge and only then will change become viable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,</p>
<p>I have no objections to 1. Full Reserve Banking although given house prices only reached the dizzy multiples they did due to &#39;overenthusiastic&#39; lending policies I can see lots of vested interests not being too happy as one outcome may be a reduction in asset prices.</p>
<p>No. 2 Land Value Tax, I quite like this one but for it to be accepted it would have to be an open and transparent system where anybody can work out the tax liability of any given piece of land and not subject to political influence.<br />One fly in the ointment of such a system might be where TPTB decide (possibly democratically) that a new motorway and junction should be built in my vicinity, I personally might lose amenity (more traffic/building in my vicinity) whereas my Land Tax might rise due to my area becoming more accessible.</p>
<p>3. Tobin Tax, not sure this is required if there is both 1. and 2. implemented.</p>
<p>The trillion-dollar question &#8211; convince the current vested interests that it is in their interests to implement them, business as usual is what worked for them in the past and they see little incentive to change at the moment. </p>
<p>The only way to get these interests to even consider change is to demonstrate the outcome of an attempt to return to BAU ie. a total collapse where even they will suffer (under BAU it has only been those in the middle and bottom who suffered)</p>
<p>The economy will have to be pushed right to the very edge and only then will change become viable.</p>
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		By: JamieGriffiths		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-4379</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamieGriffiths]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The post, and our glorious leaders&#039; latest &#039;radical plan to save the euro&#039; made me think of this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which cheered me up. For a minute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post, and our glorious leaders&#39; latest &#39;radical plan to save the euro&#39; made me think of this:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs</a><br />Which cheered me up. For a minute.</p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-4377</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David, no need to apologize - it&#039;s not easy to keep track of posts and your preoccupation is understandable (I don&#039;t know how you manage to do what you do already).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t have any hopes myself about presenting ideas to the main parties, but the aim would be to get the issues more widely aired and open up debate. Like you, I also think we need to look beyond national borders, because the problem is international.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trillion-dollar question, however, remains: how do we get from coming up with viable solutions to getting them implemented?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, no need to apologize &#8211; it&#39;s not easy to keep track of posts and your preoccupation is understandable (I don&#39;t know how you manage to do what you do already).</p>
<p>I don&#39;t have any hopes myself about presenting ideas to the main parties, but the aim would be to get the issues more widely aired and open up debate. Like you, I also think we need to look beyond national borders, because the problem is international.</p>
<p>The trillion-dollar question, however, remains: how do we get from coming up with viable solutions to getting them implemented?</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV - Thoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neil, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I apologise if you felt ignored. I read what you wrote and thought about it. I didn&#039;t reply just because I am a bit pre-occupied at present and what you&#039;re after is, as you say, jioning up the dots not jotting down some pat answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe we - you, me, many others here -  are gradually doing what you suggest, here on this blog and on others. We do need to pull things together you&#039;re right.  And I believe we will. I do not think it will be a matter of presenting teh  ideas to the main parties. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would love to believe that would work but I don&#039;t. I think we are going to need to look beyond the main parties and also think beyond national borders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, </p>
<p>I apologise if you felt ignored. I read what you wrote and thought about it. I didn&#39;t reply just because I am a bit pre-occupied at present and what you&#39;re after is, as you say, jioning up the dots not jotting down some pat answer.</p>
<p>I believe we &#8211; you, me, many others here &#8211;  are gradually doing what you suggest, here on this blog and on others. We do need to pull things together you&#39;re right.  And I believe we will. I do not think it will be a matter of presenting teh  ideas to the main parties. </p>
<p>I would love to believe that would work but I don&#39;t. I think we are going to need to look beyond the main parties and also think beyond national borders.</p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/07/final-destination-europe/#comment-4369</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What we need, in fact, is to assemble a raft of policies to present to the main political parties and media, in order to open up a broader debate. This in turn means identifying and setting up a network of organizations, groups and key individuals with a broadly shared diagnosis of the current situation, and who have individually proposed piecemeal solutions. Joining up the thinking dots, in other words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we need, in fact, is to assemble a raft of policies to present to the main political parties and media, in order to open up a broader debate. This in turn means identifying and setting up a network of organizations, groups and key individuals with a broadly shared diagnosis of the current situation, and who have individually proposed piecemeal solutions. Joining up the thinking dots, in other words.</p>
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