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		By: Demon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@city2city&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi there. Any reply from the petitions site? did they accept your petition? If so, I&#039;d be grateful if you could post its URL somewhere in this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@city2city</p>
<p>Hi there. Any reply from the petitions site? did they accept your petition? If so, I&#39;d be grateful if you could post its URL somewhere in this blog.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		By: 24K		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steviefinn, realistic is the word, maybe that&#039;s what I&#039;ve been lately, having a Lao Tsu moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m sure he was no fun at parties and I bet you we&#039;re both first up on the dancefloor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;G I&#039;m rasclalacious bro. I think trying to learn how to use new camera that looks mint if done correct but otherwise looks bunk is taking longer than planned so videos are in a state of flux. Getting vision to video is, well you know, it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cYQV62WhkM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tricky&lt;/a&gt;. Hope stuff isn&#039;t as tricky as it was for you dude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just saw Cameroon saying he won&#039;t accept terror in the UK and yet they harp on about threat levels all the time. If you don&#039;t want terror in the UK take yourself and your zombie buddies and F__K OFF.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steviefinn, realistic is the word, maybe that&#39;s what I&#39;ve been lately, having a Lao Tsu moment.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure he was no fun at parties and I bet you we&#39;re both first up on the dancefloor.</p>
<p>G I&#39;m rasclalacious bro. I think trying to learn how to use new camera that looks mint if done correct but otherwise looks bunk is taking longer than planned so videos are in a state of flux. Getting vision to video is, well you know, it&#39;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cYQV62WhkM" rel="nofollow">Tricky</a>. Hope stuff isn&#39;t as tricky as it was for you dude.</p>
<p>I just saw Cameroon saying he won&#39;t accept terror in the UK and yet they harp on about threat levels all the time. If you don&#39;t want terror in the UK take yourself and your zombie buddies and F__K OFF.</p>
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		By: william price		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[william price]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please do the petition but do sound out 38degree folk, they operate really well and may be more available down a phone line than avaaz]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do the petition but do sound out 38degree folk, they operate really well and may be more available down a phone line than avaaz</p>
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		By: Demon		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/08/a-debt-commision-for-the-publically-owned-banks-like-rbs/#comment-4629</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 07:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paddy Fields: That&#039;s why a good wording of a petition matters. We cannot ask for a simple audit, which would end up in the hands of KPMG-look-alikes. We ought to demand a committee of the kind proposed by Golem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;city2city: I&#039;ve been hammering 38 degrees to tackle on banksters for months, but they seem to be focused only on the NHS. You&#039;ll need a critical mass suggesting this action on their website.&lt;br /&gt;Regarding the epetition, I was asking about who did you address your petition to. You have to choose this from a drop-down list when you file it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paddy Fields: That&#39;s why a good wording of a petition matters. We cannot ask for a simple audit, which would end up in the hands of KPMG-look-alikes. We ought to demand a committee of the kind proposed by Golem.</p>
<p>city2city: I&#39;ve been hammering 38 degrees to tackle on banksters for months, but they seem to be focused only on the NHS. You&#39;ll need a critical mass suggesting this action on their website.<br />Regarding the epetition, I was asking about who did you address your petition to. You have to choose this from a drop-down list when you file it.</p>
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		By: Paddy Fields		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/08/a-debt-commision-for-the-publically-owned-banks-like-rbs/#comment-4627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paddy Fields]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Golem&lt;br /&gt;In Ireland we have had lots of tribunals looking into how things were done, the trouble is that 1) they take years 2) they cost millions 3) No matter how public, someone gets paid off and information &#034;gets lost&#034;.&lt;br /&gt;We have the ideal candidate bank in AIB, which i believe is 98% state owned but I don&#039;t think it will happen because Irish people let things happen and then deal with the BS afterwards rather than face things head on. Just look at WhistleblowerIrl, that is the level of bullshit that anybody that wants change is up against over here. If you guys can make it work over there then i will do anything i can to spread the word to help the cause. Ireland is a lost cause unless we can rally the publicans ;-)&lt;br /&gt;Best of luck for now]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Golem<br />In Ireland we have had lots of tribunals looking into how things were done, the trouble is that 1) they take years 2) they cost millions 3) No matter how public, someone gets paid off and information &quot;gets lost&quot;.<br />We have the ideal candidate bank in AIB, which i believe is 98% state owned but I don&#39;t think it will happen because Irish people let things happen and then deal with the BS afterwards rather than face things head on. Just look at WhistleblowerIrl, that is the level of bullshit that anybody that wants change is up against over here. If you guys can make it work over there then i will do anything i can to spread the word to help the cause. Ireland is a lost cause unless we can rally the publicans 😉<br />Best of luck for now</p>
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		By: city2city		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/08/a-debt-commision-for-the-publically-owned-banks-like-rbs/#comment-4622</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[city2city]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Golem XIV  I would agree with  other posters. 38 Degrees would be an excellent group to get behind a campaign for an Audit. Probably best to focus on one bank once with the outrage that would produce the rest would follow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Golem XIV  I would agree with  other posters. 38 Degrees would be an excellent group to get behind a campaign for an Audit. Probably best to focus on one bank once with the outrage that would produce the rest would follow.</p>
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		By: city2city		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[city2city]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Demon I requested the petition at the government website http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/ if it were to get 100,000 signers it would have a chance of being debated in Parliament. It can take up to 7 days for approval.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Demon I requested the petition at the government website <a href="http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/</a> if it were to get 100,000 signers it would have a chance of being debated in Parliament. It can take up to 7 days for approval.</p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want international reach, go for www.avaaz.org - over 9 million members worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;38degrees.org.uk would help too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want international reach, go for <a href="http://www.avaaz.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.avaaz.org</a> &#8211; over 9 million members worldwide.</p>
<p>38degrees.org.uk would help too.</p>
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		By: Demon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Demon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi all,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David: As I see it, the best way to spread the word quickly is to recruit somebody with presence in the media. It might be the only way it can light the fire quick enough (no rioting innuendo). It worked for Island. If the idea catches in the UK, then it would be easier to spread it abroad. Anybody with a (serious) celeb friend around? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;City2city: thanks for your initiative. Please let us know if it gets through. BTW, who did you address the petition to? I myself had a look at the site, but was confused regarding the best recipient: Her Majesty Treasure, Attorney General&#039;s Office, Ministry of Justice, Cabinet office? I thought that if it was to be done, it&#039;d better be done properly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>David: As I see it, the best way to spread the word quickly is to recruit somebody with presence in the media. It might be the only way it can light the fire quick enough (no rioting innuendo). It worked for Island. If the idea catches in the UK, then it would be easier to spread it abroad. Anybody with a (serious) celeb friend around? </p>
<p>City2city: thanks for your initiative. Please let us know if it gets through. BTW, who did you address the petition to? I myself had a look at the site, but was confused regarding the best recipient: Her Majesty Treasure, Attorney General&#39;s Office, Ministry of Justice, Cabinet office? I thought that if it was to be done, it&#39;d better be done properly.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV - Thoughts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV - Thoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been thining more about this today and wonder what people think of trying to get similar petitions or demands launched in more than just teh UK? Every naiton has at least one bank that has been vastly bailed out by the public and is now owned by them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All too often European affairs seem to serve for pitting one people against another in the same old &#039;johnny foreigner&#039; sort of way. I for one would feel great knowing that I was standing alongside Irish and Greek people making common demands against the finacial class who are riding us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DO you think it might do some good to try to launch something that could give people a sense of common cause across several European countries?  A common people&#039;s campaign? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The powers that be would not like the idea at all that people could make common cuase acoss frontiers. They are much happier when they can fan flames of bigotry and blame and set us against each other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know if there is any mechanism or outlet in other countries to try to launch such an idea but if it was possible, to try to launch some common campaign in several countries would in itself be news.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been thining more about this today and wonder what people think of trying to get similar petitions or demands launched in more than just teh UK? Every naiton has at least one bank that has been vastly bailed out by the public and is now owned by them. </p>
<p>All too often European affairs seem to serve for pitting one people against another in the same old &#39;johnny foreigner&#39; sort of way. I for one would feel great knowing that I was standing alongside Irish and Greek people making common demands against the finacial class who are riding us all.</p>
<p>DO you think it might do some good to try to launch something that could give people a sense of common cause across several European countries?  A common people&#39;s campaign? </p>
<p>The powers that be would not like the idea at all that people could make common cuase acoss frontiers. They are much happier when they can fan flames of bigotry and blame and set us against each other.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know if there is any mechanism or outlet in other countries to try to launch such an idea but if it was possible, to try to launch some common campaign in several countries would in itself be news.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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