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		By: Eoin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi david,
thanks for an inforamtive talk at occupy dame street.
I asked you to clarify the meaning of the term fractional reserve banking as there are 2 different versions i commonly hear.
when you explained i heard shades of both.
As far as i can see one version is the truth and the other is a misunderstanding.
I asked the question because i wanted hear you explain the truth.

i will use 10% reserve minimum in this example 


senario 1.
I deposit €100 in bank A.
bank A can keep 10 and lend out 90.
the 90 loaned out is deposited in bank B, they keep 9 and lend out 81.
the 81 loaned out is deposited in bank C, they keep 8.1 and loan out 72.9
etc etc.

senario 2.
I deposit €100 in bank X.
bank X loans out 1000.
the 1000 loaned out is deposited in bank Y.
bank Y loans out 10,000.
the 10,000 is deposited in bank Z. 
etc.


some basic maths show the effects on the money supply:

senario 1.
after 10 steps - €651  (551 has been created out of nothing)
after 100 steps €999.97 (899.97 has been created out of nothing)
after an infinate amout of steps - €1,000. (900 has been created out of nothing)

senario 2.
after 10 steps - €111,111,111,100.
after 100 steps €111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111100.


Do you agree that senario 1 is the actual situation and not senario 2? Or am i making some stupid mistake here?

Thanks for the help,
Eoin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi david,<br />
thanks for an inforamtive talk at occupy dame street.<br />
I asked you to clarify the meaning of the term fractional reserve banking as there are 2 different versions i commonly hear.<br />
when you explained i heard shades of both.<br />
As far as i can see one version is the truth and the other is a misunderstanding.<br />
I asked the question because i wanted hear you explain the truth.</p>
<p>i will use 10% reserve minimum in this example </p>
<p>senario 1.<br />
I deposit €100 in bank A.<br />
bank A can keep 10 and lend out 90.<br />
the 90 loaned out is deposited in bank B, they keep 9 and lend out 81.<br />
the 81 loaned out is deposited in bank C, they keep 8.1 and loan out 72.9<br />
etc etc.</p>
<p>senario 2.<br />
I deposit €100 in bank X.<br />
bank X loans out 1000.<br />
the 1000 loaned out is deposited in bank Y.<br />
bank Y loans out 10,000.<br />
the 10,000 is deposited in bank Z.<br />
etc.</p>
<p>some basic maths show the effects on the money supply:</p>
<p>senario 1.<br />
after 10 steps &#8211; €651  (551 has been created out of nothing)<br />
after 100 steps €999.97 (899.97 has been created out of nothing)<br />
after an infinate amout of steps &#8211; €1,000. (900 has been created out of nothing)</p>
<p>senario 2.<br />
after 10 steps &#8211; €111,111,111,100.<br />
after 100 steps €111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111100.</p>
<p>Do you agree that senario 1 is the actual situation and not senario 2? Or am i making some stupid mistake here?</p>
<p>Thanks for the help,<br />
Eoin</p>
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		By: Al coughlan		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al coughlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fantastic talk last night David. There was a palpable sense of tension in the room at one point where a few people seemed to think you were criticising Ireland. I was surprised to be honest but was glad to see things calm down. 
I first got to know you from the documentary &#039;dangerous knowledge&#039; and happened to look up your name to see what other films you&#039;d made and noticed you had written about the financial crisis, an issue to which I was somewhat ignorant bar my viewing of Michael Moore&#039;s &#039;Capitalism: a love story&#039;. 
I&#039;m grateful for your effort and ability to have delivered in simple chapter and verse, exactly how this particular crisis came about. I count it as priceless knowledge to possess. . Too many people are still (through no real fault of their own) too ignorant of the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic talk last night David. There was a palpable sense of tension in the room at one point where a few people seemed to think you were criticising Ireland. I was surprised to be honest but was glad to see things calm down.<br />
I first got to know you from the documentary &#8216;dangerous knowledge&#8217; and happened to look up your name to see what other films you&#8217;d made and noticed you had written about the financial crisis, an issue to which I was somewhat ignorant bar my viewing of Michael Moore&#8217;s &#8216;Capitalism: a love story&#8217;.<br />
I&#8217;m grateful for your effort and ability to have delivered in simple chapter and verse, exactly how this particular crisis came about. I count it as priceless knowledge to possess. . Too many people are still (through no real fault of their own) too ignorant of the truth.</p>
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		By: StevieFinn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Golem

    I have sent you an email, unfortunately I have to come down tommorrow, can&#039;t make the weekend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Golem</p>
<p>    I have sent you an email, unfortunately I have to come down tommorrow, can&#8217;t make the weekend.</p>
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		By: Paul O'Brien		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul O'Brien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi David,

When Seanan ran the idea past me I put him in touch with a couple of people in GradCam (Graduate School of Creative Arts and Media) who facilitated the organisation of the event. The word is out on Facebook so I hope there will be a good attendance! BTW, while in Dublin you should check out the Occupy Dame Street camp which is just down the road from where you will be speaking, about 15 mins walk away. I&#039;m sure they would be glad to meet you. 

All the best,

Paul]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>When Seanan ran the idea past me I put him in touch with a couple of people in GradCam (Graduate School of Creative Arts and Media) who facilitated the organisation of the event. The word is out on Facebook so I hope there will be a good attendance! BTW, while in Dublin you should check out the Occupy Dame Street camp which is just down the road from where you will be speaking, about 15 mins walk away. I&#8217;m sure they would be glad to meet you. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, 

I&#039;ve been trying to send you an email but it gets bounced.  Could you perhaps send me an email to golemxivg@gmail.com?  Or to malone@i330.demon.co.uk Then I can send my email to you.  

I would be very happy to talk to them if they thought I was an appropriate person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to send you an email but it gets bounced.  Could you perhaps send me an email to <a href="mailto:golemxivg@gmail.com">golemxivg@gmail.com</a>?  Or to <a href="mailto:malone@i330.demon.co.uk">malone@i330.demon.co.uk</a> Then I can send my email to you.  </p>
<p>I would be very happy to talk to them if they thought I was an appropriate person.</p>
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		By: Mike Hall		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Golem

One of the 2nd Republic supporters has been in contact with me (don&#039;t know why he didn&#039;t contact you directly) who is involved in the Dublin &#039;Occupy Dame Street&#039; protest.

Is it possible you could give their group a talk whilst you&#039;re in Dublin?

If so, he&#039;s given me a mobile phone no. to contact him. What&#039;s the best way to pass his details on to you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golem</p>
<p>One of the 2nd Republic supporters has been in contact with me (don&#8217;t know why he didn&#8217;t contact you directly) who is involved in the Dublin &#8216;Occupy Dame Street&#8217; protest.</p>
<p>Is it possible you could give their group a talk whilst you&#8217;re in Dublin?</p>
<p>If so, he&#8217;s given me a mobile phone no. to contact him. What&#8217;s the best way to pass his details on to you?</p>
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		By: Mike Hall		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6563</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Details now sent to the &#039;2nd Republic&#039; campaign list. Interest already expressed.

I may not make it unfortunately, financially constrained I&#039;m afraid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Details now sent to the &#8216;2nd Republic&#8217; campaign list. Interest already expressed.</p>
<p>I may not make it unfortunately, financially constrained I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		By: shellshock		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6428</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hey golem, been a fan of yours on CIf, I hope to make it, will check  back here for update.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey golem, been a fan of yours on CIf, I hope to make it, will check  back here for update.</p>
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		By: Sublime1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great stuff. Make sure you post a link for a Facebook event.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff. Make sure you post a link for a Facebook event.</p>
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		By: richard in norway		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richard in norway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6048&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Good link thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2011/10/talk-in-dublin/#comment-6048">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Good link thanks</p>
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