Hi Vern, happy to comit to being on board with this initiative I am also committed to David Malones initiative linked. I have cross linked and maybe you two will consider comparing notes.

http://lnkd.in/v-JWp7

Hi David, This looks interesting.

The best choice is to actually join them! The Greens are an arm of theirs anyway. Money, in the trillions, is very persuasive. No political party can withstand that amount? They will be reinvesting it at the very bottom and then slowly reinflating, as usual. It will therefore as heretofore, increase.

Any other attempt to rein them in will use transparency as the main weapon. How can we get close to those who have that amount of money? How many and which countries do they now own and control?

Joking as you say, but many a true word in jest and irony. Too much distributed public communication is not entirely a good thing.

If local becomes entirely insular, then each local constituency is in its own competitive battle, competing and defending and attacking, etc – with no power to influence the international scale natural monopoly resources of the ecosphere, and the international institutions beyond local governance.

The trick is for the centre not to forget its role to regulate what need regulating, but not use its power to govern what it shouldn’t. Powerful minority is good at this level.

Just checking in to re affirm my commitment to this Idea David. I see it as a powerful method of getting some informed un sponsored critique of the present hedgemony into the wider mainstream debate.
Take the GDP news and un reporting of the same on the BBC. Mish Shedlock writes on it today and Steph Flanders is given the job of spinning the up side ( The figures will be revised?)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18985077

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It seems Gideons Pasty pasting budget is not working.

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Economical Actualite IS the name of the game

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In Cuisine and in Deed you see.

http://www.positivemoney.org.uk

Take back the money creation power into the Commons.

http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2012/03/classic-one-i-was-going-to-write.html

Mish on GDP.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.se/2012/07/uk-gdp-disaster-far-worse-than-it-looks.html

GDP is a very silly economic measure, by its metrics quantative easing really makes things look great of course expanding Bank reserves does nothing for the real economy unless the Banks choose to excercise their debt money creation powers.

Will keep checking back, Greetings from a sunny Sweden.

Rog

Do you think we could add something about not glamourising Gypsies in the party manifesto?

Outlaw any more “fat gypsy” whatever programmes? Surely this is the greatest evil perpetrated against our once proud nation? But are we bothered about the uninformed votes of the herding masses?

This is the kind of debate that would really capture the imagination in this unsophisticated sceptered isle.

OK i’m joking. Agree that a cunning hydra-headed campaing in Europe is the way to go though. Count me in. PS, can we close down all Facebook data centres on the basis that they both pullte environmentally and are an insult to humanity?

Hello I am a new reader, just found my way here today and am working my way through, fascinating and inspiring stuff. I am an ordinary person with little understanding of economics but I have been reading a lot recently, trying to understand the reality we find ourselves in and how our political system got hijacked in this way. I red blogs like zerohedge and the Slog and I have got quite an education from reading comments threads below the line on Guardian articles which are often very well informed. Although I am something of a leftie I also read what people post on right wing message boards as I think it gives a rounded view of the electorate’s thinking.

The reason for my post is to say that the solution to the problems we face today would be better presented as not being an issue of left or right, it is too important for that. The solution must be one that people will sign up to, whatever their own political colour, and which can’t be crudely dismissed as simply ‘anti capitalist’ or whatever, by vested interests.

Good luck to you, I hope your ideas turn out to be the solution we have been waiting for. I will keep reading..

I agree that we need more democracy and more democratic accountability. But you can’t go making a referendum of everything. Especially not when we have a press that has been hijacked by vested interests. The unintended consequences would be awful. In the UK the government set up a website for people to launch epetitions. A look at some of the ones with the most signatures is enough to strike fear into the heart of any decent person. At the top of the wish list is always a desire for the return of capital punishment.

Hello Sarah,

I agree entirely about being non-left/right but emphasizing that this is a coming-together to do the desperately needed job of restoring/protecting democracy from what you quite rightly call authoritarian corporatism.

I know there hgas been a pause but it is just that – a pause. I do not want anyone to feel rushed into it without time to think and respond.

I think we will have to settle on a name shortly. From there we start to set up all the things you mention.

Please stay in touch. You sound as if you have much to offer.

First post here – I’m a long-term reader and lurker. Just wanted to offer my support for a new pan-European or even global / Western party movement. So many people I’m meeting are very aware things have gone wrong, but have no idea what they can do to fix it, so IMHO the time is right to start a clearly focussed movement to fix / restore our democracy and reverse the hollowing out of our social democracy which the banksters have been pushing these past 10-15 years, if not longer.

Personally I’d focus immediately on a European party: articulated correctly, you’d get enormous support in almost all member countries. Try not to be left / right partisan: our problem is no longer one of left wing vs right wing, but pro-democracy vs authoritarian corporatism, and any movement should be couched in those terms, IMHO.

Additionally, placing yourself at a European parliamentary level would allow national parties to offer support without the automatic presumption you’re in conflict with them. In countries where there are already political movements opposing the nascent corporatism this would be very valuable.

Also, perhaps, make it clear that the movement is essentially a one-trick pony: its job is to reform / restore our social democracy, then either step down or morph into something less universal. That way you can unite traditionally left wing and right wing folks under a common banner to ‘get this sorted out’.

Finally, money. You’ll need it, so go for crowdfunding. Provide staggered ‘rewards’ for contributions: memberships, e-bulletins, t-shirts, hell, masks! Set up a Facebook page for the movement, a Youtube channel, maybe even get celebs and musicians involved. Give people something that concretises the movement – this is about drawing together under a motivated umbrella the nascent European awareness that ‘something must be done’, and you want to generate a sense of belonging, IMHO.

Anyway, just my two-penn’orth. You have my support, and that of many others. The established media will be your enemy – but thank god the alt-media are still there to be used.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for the great blog!

Best,

Sarah