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		By: Riabuchinska		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riabuchinska]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23363&quot;&gt;steviefinn&lt;/a&gt;.

Say, are you up against YOUR OWN cannibal goverment? Right, the internet is much comfortable, isn&#039;t?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23363">steviefinn</a>.</p>
<p>Say, are you up against YOUR OWN cannibal goverment? Right, the internet is much comfortable, isn&#8217;t?</p>
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		By: Riabuchinska		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riabuchinska]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23442&quot;&gt;Roanman&lt;/a&gt;.

Please you do that, do stay away form this country as FASCIST as you are not welcome in these lands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23442">Roanman</a>.</p>
<p>Please you do that, do stay away form this country as FASCIST as you are not welcome in these lands.</p>
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		By: sheepshagger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sheepshagger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the exploitative sex analogies.
They say a lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the exploitative sex analogies.<br />
They say a lot.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23463&quot;&gt;sumo&lt;/a&gt;.

Sumo,

Thank you for reading and for commenting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23463">sumo</a>.</p>
<p>Sumo,</p>
<p>Thank you for reading and for commenting.</p>
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		By: sumo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sumo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David, thank you for your blog. It is a disturbing experience for me, to glimpse the predatory, even psychopathic, nature of business and politics. I admire how you lay it out for us, clearly and incisively. Few finance writers know the truth and want to tell the truth. Please keep it up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, thank you for your blog. It is a disturbing experience for me, to glimpse the predatory, even psychopathic, nature of business and politics. I admire how you lay it out for us, clearly and incisively. Few finance writers know the truth and want to tell the truth. Please keep it up.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 21:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23442&quot;&gt;Roanman&lt;/a&gt;.

I would dearly love the chance to spend some time in both Chile and Argentina and learn more of the nuances of which you speak. The only country I have spent any time in in that area is Peru. Which I liked a great deal.

I am quite sure there are those who disliked and distrusted Allende. And I would not claim sainthood for anyone.  But Pinochet&#039;s was a military coup led by the Chilean army and police opposed by the armed forces of the nation only by elements within the navy. It was a coup that got plenty of funding and active, on the ground, military help from the CIA and another country.

I do not say this based on vague readings of &#039;conspiracy&#039; internet sites but from first hand testimony given to me by people who were there, involved in those events, at the time, on the ground.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23442">Roanman</a>.</p>
<p>I would dearly love the chance to spend some time in both Chile and Argentina and learn more of the nuances of which you speak. The only country I have spent any time in in that area is Peru. Which I liked a great deal.</p>
<p>I am quite sure there are those who disliked and distrusted Allende. And I would not claim sainthood for anyone.  But Pinochet&#8217;s was a military coup led by the Chilean army and police opposed by the armed forces of the nation only by elements within the navy. It was a coup that got plenty of funding and active, on the ground, military help from the CIA and another country.</p>
<p>I do not say this based on vague readings of &#8216;conspiracy&#8217; internet sites but from first hand testimony given to me by people who were there, involved in those events, at the time, on the ground.</p>
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		By: Roanman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roanman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23361&quot;&gt;Golem XIV&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding that bee in your bonnet about Salvadore Allende and General Pinochet.  

If you haven&#039;t and get the opportunity to spend some time in Chile&#039; and/or Argentina you will hear a much different and significantly more nuanced account of the times and consequences Chilean history with regards to those two.  I&#039;m not talking about just the estancias, business interests and tour guides, but rather, bartenders, cab drivers, the girls working in  the cafés con piernas, the door man.  

Nobody likes Pinochet, but there is more than grudging appreciation for Chile&#039;s prosperity relative to the balance of South America and Argentina in particular, along with severe doubts about Allende, his plans for the country, his disdain for and attempted expropriation of private property.  In a nutshell, he was/is far more respected in the United States than he was/is after two years in power in Chile.

What is almost never mentioned by Allende supporters is the fact that he was impeached by the Chilean Senate, which impeachment was upheld by the Chilean Courts.  Pinochet acting under the authorization of the impeachment moved to remove Allende from office which resulted in Allende&#039;s suicide/murder take your pick.  Then the prick Pinochet refused to return control of the gvernment back to an elected government choosing to implement a military dictatorship. 

i recommend Chile&#039; to anybody who will listen, Uruguay even more so which despite  a similar history with violent leftists and military dictatorships has worked through it to the point of electing a former jailed leader of the Tupamaros as President.

I&#039;d stay the hell away from Buenos Aires for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23361">Golem XIV</a>.</p>
<p>Regarding that bee in your bonnet about Salvadore Allende and General Pinochet.  </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t and get the opportunity to spend some time in Chile&#8217; and/or Argentina you will hear a much different and significantly more nuanced account of the times and consequences Chilean history with regards to those two.  I&#8217;m not talking about just the estancias, business interests and tour guides, but rather, bartenders, cab drivers, the girls working in  the cafés con piernas, the door man.  </p>
<p>Nobody likes Pinochet, but there is more than grudging appreciation for Chile&#8217;s prosperity relative to the balance of South America and Argentina in particular, along with severe doubts about Allende, his plans for the country, his disdain for and attempted expropriation of private property.  In a nutshell, he was/is far more respected in the United States than he was/is after two years in power in Chile.</p>
<p>What is almost never mentioned by Allende supporters is the fact that he was impeached by the Chilean Senate, which impeachment was upheld by the Chilean Courts.  Pinochet acting under the authorization of the impeachment moved to remove Allende from office which resulted in Allende&#8217;s suicide/murder take your pick.  Then the prick Pinochet refused to return control of the gvernment back to an elected government choosing to implement a military dictatorship. </p>
<p>i recommend Chile&#8217; to anybody who will listen, Uruguay even more so which despite  a similar history with violent leftists and military dictatorships has worked through it to the point of electing a former jailed leader of the Tupamaros as President.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d stay the hell away from Buenos Aires for a while.</p>
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		By: Roanman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roanman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23360&quot;&gt;Golem XIV&lt;/a&gt;.

Props for being man enough to admit it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23360">Golem XIV</a>.</p>
<p>Props for being man enough to admit it.</p>
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		By: John Souter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Souter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the matter of odious debt - it is believed something like $25 -40 trillion is being nurtured in the honeypots of tax havens?

Let&#039;s be kind and award these a liability saving from the tax account of all nations of around 20%. Would not that $5 -8 trillion go some way to re-generating the economies of many nations.

And since one, if not many of the devious methods used to squirrel away these monies is through the use of shell companies under nominee directors; often (and this is the ridiculous part) where the original depositor in order to evade and remove any direct link to himself has in all practicality to remove his claim of ownership to the point where it is effectively controlled by his scrupulously amoral financial advisor, is this then not a case of alien contracts for odious purpose.

Perhaps, if miracles happened and we had a financial system based on probity and integrity in conjunction with government&#039;s with a semblance of a backbone we could garnishee all of these deposits and demand proof of ownership before releasing them after all taxes and fees attributable have been paid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the matter of odious debt &#8211; it is believed something like $25 -40 trillion is being nurtured in the honeypots of tax havens?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be kind and award these a liability saving from the tax account of all nations of around 20%. Would not that $5 -8 trillion go some way to re-generating the economies of many nations.</p>
<p>And since one, if not many of the devious methods used to squirrel away these monies is through the use of shell companies under nominee directors; often (and this is the ridiculous part) where the original depositor in order to evade and remove any direct link to himself has in all practicality to remove his claim of ownership to the point where it is effectively controlled by his scrupulously amoral financial advisor, is this then not a case of alien contracts for odious purpose.</p>
<p>Perhaps, if miracles happened and we had a financial system based on probity and integrity in conjunction with government&#8217;s with a semblance of a backbone we could garnishee all of these deposits and demand proof of ownership before releasing them after all taxes and fees attributable have been paid.</p>
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		By: Mike Hall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 11:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23418&quot;&gt;Hawkeye&lt;/a&gt;.

Marshal Auerback on Carney:

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/11/mark-carney-vs-andy-haldane-the-bank-of-canada-governor-is-wrong-on-too-big-to-fail-and-wrong-on-canadas-banking-system.html

But I suppose the fact that Carney was with the &#039;vampire squid&#039; for 13 yrs &#038; also a Bilderberg attendee says it all really.

Interesting piece on former Thatcher economics/treasury adviser Rachel Lomax &#038; her recent scathing attack on Anglo-American neo-liberalism:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/26/big-business-corrupted-economics]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/11/argentina-and-america-of-vulture-funds-and-justice/#comment-23418">Hawkeye</a>.</p>
<p>Marshal Auerback on Carney:</p>
<p><a href="http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/11/mark-carney-vs-andy-haldane-the-bank-of-canada-governor-is-wrong-on-too-big-to-fail-and-wrong-on-canadas-banking-system.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/11/mark-carney-vs-andy-haldane-the-bank-of-canada-governor-is-wrong-on-too-big-to-fail-and-wrong-on-canadas-banking-system.html</a></p>
<p>But I suppose the fact that Carney was with the &#8216;vampire squid&#8217; for 13 yrs &amp; also a Bilderberg attendee says it all really.</p>
<p>Interesting piece on former Thatcher economics/treasury adviser Rachel Lomax &amp; her recent scathing attack on Anglo-American neo-liberalism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/26/big-business-corrupted-economics" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/26/big-business-corrupted-economics</a></p>
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