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		By: Roger G Lewis		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-23978&quot;&gt;John Souter&lt;/a&gt;.

David Malone, News of Golem xiv
https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/   Update GolemXIV An update on my friend David Malone, His new project&quot; Red Green Blue&quot; and a retrospective view to the rebranding of Dissent.

https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2016/01/re-branding-dissent/   

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<p>David Malone, News of Golem xiv<br />
<a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/</a>   Update GolemXIV An update on my friend David Malone, His new project&#8221; Red Green Blue&#8221; and a retrospective view to the rebranding of Dissent.</p>
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		By: Roger Lewis		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-674640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6sOsXXldM
This Blog read on Youtube, a wonderful listen

and Davids Favourite film from his Horizon Producer days.
DTube is shadowbanned in Chrome browsers but works seamlessly in Duckagogo and Firefox.
Censorship varies across countries so possibly chrome might work for you where you are.

https://d.tube/#!/v/tonefreqhz/siz03mvr

My Latest on the MMT and Positive money slanging match 

https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/01/26/mmt-jesus-road-to-damascus-st-richard-murphy-the-joy-of-taxonomy-amen/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6sOsXXldM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6sOsXXldM</a><br />
This Blog read on Youtube, a wonderful listen</p>
<p>and Davids Favourite film from his Horizon Producer days.<br />
DTube is shadowbanned in Chrome browsers but works seamlessly in Duckagogo and Firefox.<br />
Censorship varies across countries so possibly chrome might work for you where you are.</p>
<p><a href="https://d.tube/#!/v/tonefreqhz/siz03mvr" rel="nofollow ugc">https://d.tube/#!/v/tonefreqhz/siz03mvr</a></p>
<p>My Latest on the MMT and Positive money slanging match </p>
<p><a href="https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/01/26/mmt-jesus-road-to-damascus-st-richard-murphy-the-joy-of-taxonomy-amen/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/01/26/mmt-jesus-road-to-damascus-st-richard-murphy-the-joy-of-taxonomy-amen/</a></p>
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		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-572725</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.

Ode, Arthur O&#039;Shaughnessy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For each age is a dream that is dying,<br />
Or one that is coming to birth.</p>
<p>Ode, Arthur O&#8217;Shaughnessy</p>
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		By: Roger G Lewis		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger G Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24027&quot;&gt;Mike Hall&lt;/a&gt;.

“Oil gave us a once-in-the-history-of-the-planet chance to build a sustainable industrial infrastructure, one that would provide a high standard of living by running on current solar income rather than by drawing down the planetary stock of capital, and so far, we’ve blown it. ´
&#039;&#039;
&#039;&#039;Oil gave us a once-in-the-history-of-the-planet chance&#039;&#039;

I wanted to just take a moment to consider this claim. I feel it is a fairly big claim, one that is heard very often and accepted as being correct without question.

Personally I think any claims that one is being presented with under the billing ´a once in a life time opportunity´, should be examined very carefully. Often when presented with such entreaties the person claiming to be pointing out the rarity of the opportunity on offer is not without self interest in one taking the supposedly rare choice.

When back in the 1920&#039;s oil was adopted as the primary power source along with Coal the state of technology with respect to electricity was also quite advanced, one wonders why Oil was favoured?

When one considers prohibition in the united states (think Bio fuels and hemp) and one also considers the turmoil around the money system and the wider geo-political movements at that time(Gold Standard, USSR,Weimar to National Socialism, Spanish CIvil War). The claim that Oil some how presented us with and still does, with a once in a lifetime of the planet opportunity? I do not think the claim can stand up.

There was some interesting Geo Thermal developments a few months back, never widely reported, but promising. The Solar budget is huge , always has been and will be for the life of the planet, the difficulty for the system of political economy we are subject to has always been that the sun as with the Air we breathe is free , abundant and can not be monopolised or made artificially scarce.

As with the monetary myths I feel that the Oil as a special one off opportunity does not actually hold water especially if one looks outside of the economic system that is pre-supposed to give the claim any credibility in the first place. The standard line is that it is portable and relatively cheap to extract , when one starts off down that road incredulity is but a few steps around the corner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24027">Mike Hall</a>.</p>
<p>“Oil gave us a once-in-the-history-of-the-planet chance to build a sustainable industrial infrastructure, one that would provide a high standard of living by running on current solar income rather than by drawing down the planetary stock of capital, and so far, we’ve blown it. ´<br />
&#8221;<br />
&#8221;Oil gave us a once-in-the-history-of-the-planet chance&#8221;</p>
<p>I wanted to just take a moment to consider this claim. I feel it is a fairly big claim, one that is heard very often and accepted as being correct without question.</p>
<p>Personally I think any claims that one is being presented with under the billing ´a once in a life time opportunity´, should be examined very carefully. Often when presented with such entreaties the person claiming to be pointing out the rarity of the opportunity on offer is not without self interest in one taking the supposedly rare choice.</p>
<p>When back in the 1920&#8217;s oil was adopted as the primary power source along with Coal the state of technology with respect to electricity was also quite advanced, one wonders why Oil was favoured?</p>
<p>When one considers prohibition in the united states (think Bio fuels and hemp) and one also considers the turmoil around the money system and the wider geo-political movements at that time(Gold Standard, USSR,Weimar to National Socialism, Spanish CIvil War). The claim that Oil some how presented us with and still does, with a once in a lifetime of the planet opportunity? I do not think the claim can stand up.</p>
<p>There was some interesting Geo Thermal developments a few months back, never widely reported, but promising. The Solar budget is huge , always has been and will be for the life of the planet, the difficulty for the system of political economy we are subject to has always been that the sun as with the Air we breathe is free , abundant and can not be monopolised or made artificially scarce.</p>
<p>As with the monetary myths I feel that the Oil as a special one off opportunity does not actually hold water especially if one looks outside of the economic system that is pre-supposed to give the claim any credibility in the first place. The standard line is that it is portable and relatively cheap to extract , when one starts off down that road incredulity is but a few steps around the corner.</p>
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		By: McCabage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McCabage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-23944&quot;&gt;Golem XIV&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah Pink Floyd, some of Roger&#039;s finest work too &#039;Hanging on in quiet desperation 
Is the English way, The time is gone, The song is over, Thought I&#039;d something more to say&#039; [Time, from Dark Side of the Moon for any who doesn&#039;t know, well worth a listen] 

A beautiful piece Mr Malone - hope is a fascinating necessity I think. Almost as interesting as the function of the heart, you documentary on &#039;what makes us human?&#039; [I think it was] was brilliant.

I hope you are well and that 2013 treats you well. 
Regards]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-23944">Golem XIV</a>.</p>
<p>Ah Pink Floyd, some of Roger&#8217;s finest work too &#8216;Hanging on in quiet desperation<br />
Is the English way, The time is gone, The song is over, Thought I&#8217;d something more to say&#8217; [Time, from Dark Side of the Moon for any who doesn&#8217;t know, well worth a listen] </p>
<p>A beautiful piece Mr Malone &#8211; hope is a fascinating necessity I think. Almost as interesting as the function of the heart, you documentary on &#8216;what makes us human?&#8217; [I think it was] was brilliant.</p>
<p>I hope you are well and that 2013 treats you well.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steviefinn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24131&quot;&gt;backwardsevolution&lt;/a&gt;.

Backwardsrevolution

    That if nothing else is an awful coincidence, from the bit I have read it seems Mrs. Lanza had developed a siege mentality, perhaps her son had picked up on this which obviously would not help with his obviously psychotic state of mind.

  Siege mentality might be illustrated by this report from Dec 6th detailing Smith &#038; Wesson&#039;s  48% rise in weapons sales - Scary times. I also saw an article that the US&#039;s gun shooting level was equivalent with places like Columbia if you took out the suicides.

http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&#038;p=irol-newsArticle&#038;ID=1765194&#038;highlight=

I was always glad that some of the nutjobs I knew in England when I was young were unable to get hold of guns, they were bad enough without them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24131">backwardsevolution</a>.</p>
<p>Backwardsrevolution</p>
<p>    That if nothing else is an awful coincidence, from the bit I have read it seems Mrs. Lanza had developed a siege mentality, perhaps her son had picked up on this which obviously would not help with his obviously psychotic state of mind.</p>
<p>  Siege mentality might be illustrated by this report from Dec 6th detailing Smith &amp; Wesson&#8217;s  48% rise in weapons sales &#8211; Scary times. I also saw an article that the US&#8217;s gun shooting level was equivalent with places like Columbia if you took out the suicides.</p>
<p><a href="http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&#038;p=irol-newsArticle&#038;ID=1765194&#038;highlight=" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&#038;p=irol-newsArticle&#038;ID=1765194&#038;highlight=</a></p>
<p>I was always glad that some of the nutjobs I knew in England when I was young were unable to get hold of guns, they were bad enough without them.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24126&quot;&gt;Joe Taylor&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes - that was my take to when I first learnt about how banks create credit money. I have moved into the more esoteric world of economic theory since then, but still regularly donate to Postive Money. It is sad to think that people understood much better how credit money worked in 19th century US. There was a populist movement &#039;People&#039;s Party&#039; that fought for nationalized banks and debt-free money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24126">Joe Taylor</a>.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; that was my take to when I first learnt about how banks create credit money. I have moved into the more esoteric world of economic theory since then, but still regularly donate to Postive Money. It is sad to think that people understood much better how credit money worked in 19th century US. There was a populist movement &#8216;People&#8217;s Party&#8217; that fought for nationalized banks and debt-free money.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 23:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2012/12/on-the-death-of-certain-dreams/#comment-24131&quot;&gt;backwardsevolution&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the LIBOR aspect of this has been debunked. There certainly are other unexplained aspects in both incidents though that suggest the involvement of others in the crimes and that both the alleged perps may have been patsies.]]></description>
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<p>I think the LIBOR aspect of this has been debunked. There certainly are other unexplained aspects in both incidents though that suggest the involvement of others in the crimes and that both the alleged perps may have been patsies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[steviefinn - I have noticed that you&#039;re keeping people up to date with the LIBOR scandal.  During 2012, the U.S. had two terrible mass shootings:  one by James Holmes in a Colorado movie theatre, the other by Adam Lanza who shot and killed 26 people (20 of them Grade 1 students) in Connecticut last week. 

“The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify

Both fathers were set to testify in the LIBOR scandal!  Is this a coincidence, or what?  Both boys were on anti-psychotic drugs which can cause uncontrollable rage and aggression.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steviefinn &#8211; I have noticed that you&#8217;re keeping people up to date with the LIBOR scandal.  During 2012, the U.S. had two terrible mass shootings:  one by James Holmes in a Colorado movie theatre, the other by Adam Lanza who shot and killed 26 people (20 of them Grade 1 students) in Connecticut last week. </p>
<p>“The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify</a></p>
<p>Both fathers were set to testify in the LIBOR scandal!  Is this a coincidence, or what?  Both boys were on anti-psychotic drugs which can cause uncontrollable rage and aggression.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi JayD

You asked about Positive Money.

As an organisation they focus mainly on the money/debt creation area. I guess they&#039;ve decided that they can&#039;t get into becoming like a political party and having a position on everything. 

Obviously, the personnel involved within the organisation will all have views on everything else

Have a look at their website if you&#039;re interested. Lot&#039;s of chat on their forum too.

Ben Dyson is the founder and I&#039;d say he&#039;s become semi-minimalist over the last year so opted out of the &#039;whole stuff driven psyche&#039;!

What I like about Positive Money is that they don&#039;t try to come up with a master-plan that is all things to all people. It is pretty obvious to everyone that the people we expected to do that have failed big time.  PM concentrate on a single but very important issue and say, &#039;this is a fact, here&#039;s the evidence, deal with it.

The beauty of that message - stop the banks creating money out of fresh air and using it to turn us into slaves - is that I can explain it in two minutes to the bloke next door, who doesn&#039;t have a computer, without boring him to death.

I personally think that most of our social problems flow from income inequality and that income inequality is just one of many detrimental results caused by banks creating money and using it for speculation instead of an independent government agency creating the money we need for the real economy.

My dream, as a committed community activist, is be able to get that message out in a simple, emotive manner such that Joe Blogs and his dog can understand it and not shrug his shoulders but want to do something about it. 

I don&#039;t think we will ever get social justice, equality, human rights, participatory democracy, be able to protect the biosphere and make this world a decent place to live in if we don&#039;t deal with the money issue first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi JayD</p>
<p>You asked about Positive Money.</p>
<p>As an organisation they focus mainly on the money/debt creation area. I guess they&#8217;ve decided that they can&#8217;t get into becoming like a political party and having a position on everything. </p>
<p>Obviously, the personnel involved within the organisation will all have views on everything else</p>
<p>Have a look at their website if you&#8217;re interested. Lot&#8217;s of chat on their forum too.</p>
<p>Ben Dyson is the founder and I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s become semi-minimalist over the last year so opted out of the &#8216;whole stuff driven psyche&#8217;!</p>
<p>What I like about Positive Money is that they don&#8217;t try to come up with a master-plan that is all things to all people. It is pretty obvious to everyone that the people we expected to do that have failed big time.  PM concentrate on a single but very important issue and say, &#8216;this is a fact, here&#8217;s the evidence, deal with it.</p>
<p>The beauty of that message &#8211; stop the banks creating money out of fresh air and using it to turn us into slaves &#8211; is that I can explain it in two minutes to the bloke next door, who doesn&#8217;t have a computer, without boring him to death.</p>
<p>I personally think that most of our social problems flow from income inequality and that income inequality is just one of many detrimental results caused by banks creating money and using it for speculation instead of an independent government agency creating the money we need for the real economy.</p>
<p>My dream, as a committed community activist, is be able to get that message out in a simple, emotive manner such that Joe Blogs and his dog can understand it and not shrug his shoulders but want to do something about it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we will ever get social justice, equality, human rights, participatory democracy, be able to protect the biosphere and make this world a decent place to live in if we don&#8217;t deal with the money issue first.</p>
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