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		By: Buck Turgidson		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Turgidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26268&quot;&gt;Buck Turgidson&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not the only one with this opinion....read on


Why now, when everything is supposedly fixed and when the impression of stability is paramount? Perhaps the reason is that as CNBC&#039;s Michelle Caruso-Cabrera reports from Cyprus, there is now an rumor that the &quot;other&quot; bank - Bank of Cyprus - may also be on the verge of liquidation.

While this is unsubstantiated for now, it would make sense in the aftermath of yesterday&#039;s confusing announcement of a select bank reopening today, followed hours later by an extension of the bank closure through Thursday (at least, likely longer), but more importantly, following reports that Russian depositors may have already long pulled out their cash from Cyprus, meaning not even full impairments on all uninsured depositors will be enough to cover the capital shortfall, with the only option being impairment of the insured depositors after all... or bank closure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26268">Buck Turgidson</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the only one with this opinion&#8230;.read on</p>
<p>Why now, when everything is supposedly fixed and when the impression of stability is paramount? Perhaps the reason is that as CNBC&#8217;s Michelle Caruso-Cabrera reports from Cyprus, there is now an rumor that the &#8220;other&#8221; bank &#8211; Bank of Cyprus &#8211; may also be on the verge of liquidation.</p>
<p>While this is unsubstantiated for now, it would make sense in the aftermath of yesterday&#8217;s confusing announcement of a select bank reopening today, followed hours later by an extension of the bank closure through Thursday (at least, likely longer), but more importantly, following reports that Russian depositors may have already long pulled out their cash from Cyprus, meaning not even full impairments on all uninsured depositors will be enough to cover the capital shortfall, with the only option being impairment of the insured depositors after all&#8230; or bank closure.</p>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26268&quot;&gt;Buck Turgidson&lt;/a&gt;.

Cypriots]]></description>
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<p>Cypriots</p>
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		By: AndyGood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AndyGood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26284&quot;&gt;Golem XIV&lt;/a&gt;.

Second rule of politics : Never believe anything until it has been officially denied...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26284">Golem XIV</a>.</p>
<p>Second rule of politics : Never believe anything until it has been officially denied&#8230;</p>
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		By: Enexoumeypothesi		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26346</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enexoumeypothesi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26295&quot;&gt;Bakasone&lt;/a&gt;.

maybe because the Kremlin bureaucrats stash their &#039;&#039;earnings&#039;&#039; in Cyprus?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26295">Bakasone</a>.</p>
<p>maybe because the Kremlin bureaucrats stash their &#8221;earnings&#8221; in Cyprus?</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26295&quot;&gt;Bakasone&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Bakasone,

You are right that many of the companies incorporated in Cyprus have their accounts in banks in other countries. This is true but official figures do suggest there are still quite a number of billions actually in Cyprus. Or rather were in Cyprus.

I think what worries them all Russia Cyprus as well as the EU is if the dirty details about how much money laundering has been done and who by, were to came out. Too many details could come out of Cyprus if anyone cared to look.

So far no one has looked. EVen when specifically asked to.

Same in the UK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26295">Bakasone</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Bakasone,</p>
<p>You are right that many of the companies incorporated in Cyprus have their accounts in banks in other countries. This is true but official figures do suggest there are still quite a number of billions actually in Cyprus. Or rather were in Cyprus.</p>
<p>I think what worries them all Russia Cyprus as well as the EU is if the dirty details about how much money laundering has been done and who by, were to came out. Too many details could come out of Cyprus if anyone cared to look.</p>
<p>So far no one has looked. EVen when specifically asked to.</p>
<p>Same in the UK.</p>
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		By: Bakasone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bakasone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Russian billions have never been there. The oligarchs only maintain offices on Cyprus, they are incorporated in Cyprus, but they do their banking in safer places. Only the ones who can not show where their money comes from depend on Cypriot banks. Russia&#039;s exposure to the island state appears to be smaller than expected. I wouldn&#039;t know why Putin should ge involved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian billions have never been there. The oligarchs only maintain offices on Cyprus, they are incorporated in Cyprus, but they do their banking in safer places. Only the ones who can not show where their money comes from depend on Cypriot banks. Russia&#8217;s exposure to the island state appears to be smaller than expected. I wouldn&#8217;t know why Putin should ge involved.</p>
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		By: Golem XIV		</title>
		<link>https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golem XIV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26283&quot;&gt;Enexoumeypothesi&lt;/a&gt;.

Gazprom has denied they were in discussions. I love a good denial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26283">Enexoumeypothesi</a>.</p>
<p>Gazprom has denied they were in discussions. I love a good denial.</p>
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		By: Enexoumeypothesi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Enexoumeypothesi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very good said David. I don&#039;t object to any of your suggestions as long as Russia guarantees our sovereignty and security .... I&#039;ll just name 2 countries that could screw us AGAIN : UK &#038; Turkey]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good said David. I don&#8217;t object to any of your suggestions as long as Russia guarantees our sovereignty and security &#8230;. I&#8217;ll just name 2 countries that could screw us AGAIN : UK &amp; Turkey</p>
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		By: Patricia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 05:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26266&quot;&gt;John G&lt;/a&gt;.

If a bank has covered bonds and then collapses those bond holders can take their cut from our deposits and so i would bet that the 10% they are saying would occur under the OBR would be much larger than that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/03/cyprus-versus-the-eustapo-a-mischievious-idea/#comment-26266">John G</a>.</p>
<p>If a bank has covered bonds and then collapses those bond holders can take their cut from our deposits and so i would bet that the 10% they are saying would occur under the OBR would be much larger than that.</p>
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		By: Buck Turgidson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Turgidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m wondering if the Russians are using the time the banks are shut down to do just what you said and that is spirit their laundered money back to Russia. I think the banks could be in the process of being plundered by the Russians leaving the poor Ceteians (or whatever they are called) broke..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if the Russians are using the time the banks are shut down to do just what you said and that is spirit their laundered money back to Russia. I think the banks could be in the process of being plundered by the Russians leaving the poor Ceteians (or whatever they are called) broke..</p>
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