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		By: Invest in Oil Wells		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Invest in Oil Wells]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Al Kover(t)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Kover(t)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139163&quot;&gt;Golem XIV&lt;/a&gt;.

Last week Sec. of State Kerry said during a hearing in front of the Congressional Arms committee that &quot;Assad&#039;s troops&quot; would secure the chemical weapons sites in Syria after a &quot;limited strike with consequence.&quot; A Congressman, not to be flummoxed by this apparently (?) ridiculous statement, said words to the effect that how could that be the case when the US&#039;s ostensible strategy was to get rid of Assad. This same Congressman, or one of his Republican colleagues, expressed the dismay of &quot;national security interests&quot; at the cost of laying off military personnel in the US because of the &quot;sequestration&quot; (cost-cutting measures to reduce the US deficit). In short, the US&#039;s security, according to the Congressmen, was at stake NOT in Syria but at home. This goes to show what a smoke screen was being put up by the Obama administration in the person of Kerry so that these crackers in Congress can appease their constituents when in fact Blackwater, Fluor et al. could very well employ some, at least, of these military personnel as so-called contractors (the mercenaries in other words). Thus lip service was paid to the claptrap from many Republicans and Tea Party-ers that there must be a downsizing of &quot;big&quot; government. This hearing was quite a show paying homage to the mantra, &quot;the American public is sick and tired of war.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139163">Golem XIV</a>.</p>
<p>Last week Sec. of State Kerry said during a hearing in front of the Congressional Arms committee that &#8220;Assad&#8217;s troops&#8221; would secure the chemical weapons sites in Syria after a &#8220;limited strike with consequence.&#8221; A Congressman, not to be flummoxed by this apparently (?) ridiculous statement, said words to the effect that how could that be the case when the US&#8217;s ostensible strategy was to get rid of Assad. This same Congressman, or one of his Republican colleagues, expressed the dismay of &#8220;national security interests&#8221; at the cost of laying off military personnel in the US because of the &#8220;sequestration&#8221; (cost-cutting measures to reduce the US deficit). In short, the US&#8217;s security, according to the Congressmen, was at stake NOT in Syria but at home. This goes to show what a smoke screen was being put up by the Obama administration in the person of Kerry so that these crackers in Congress can appease their constituents when in fact Blackwater, Fluor et al. could very well employ some, at least, of these military personnel as so-called contractors (the mercenaries in other words). Thus lip service was paid to the claptrap from many Republicans and Tea Party-ers that there must be a downsizing of &#8220;big&#8221; government. This hearing was quite a show paying homage to the mantra, &#8220;the American public is sick and tired of war.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Buck Turgidson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Turgidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2013 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What ever happens in Syria, a year from now they will (for whatever reason) be unable to allow the flow of gas. Just look at the exports of oil from Libya, they are tanking as I write.  Without some stability everything in the region will grind to a halt.........that&#039;s good for Russia.

You need boots on the ground to keep the energy flowing. No chance of that happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever happens in Syria, a year from now they will (for whatever reason) be unable to allow the flow of gas. Just look at the exports of oil from Libya, they are tanking as I write.  Without some stability everything in the region will grind to a halt&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;that&#8217;s good for Russia.</p>
<p>You need boots on the ground to keep the energy flowing. No chance of that happening.</p>
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		By: Hawkeye		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hawkeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139154&quot;&gt;Hawkeye&lt;/a&gt;.

DoC

Indeed, the spice must flow.

After all, there are no nations, no peoples, no Russians, no arabs etc. only the one system of systems. AKA the corporate cosmology:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb26LaVuOBk

It&#039;s the natural order of things today....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139154">Hawkeye</a>.</p>
<p>DoC</p>
<p>Indeed, the spice must flow.</p>
<p>After all, there are no nations, no peoples, no Russians, no arabs etc. only the one system of systems. AKA the corporate cosmology:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb26LaVuOBk" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb26LaVuOBk</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the natural order of things today&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Roger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139220&quot;&gt;John Souter&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes John for a few pieces of silver in the hands of the worthy politicians its the rest of us that pay the very high price and the ultimate price is paid by oppressed people in far away lands.]]></description>
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<p>Yes John for a few pieces of silver in the hands of the worthy politicians its the rest of us that pay the very high price and the ultimate price is paid by oppressed people in far away lands.</p>
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		By: allcoppedout		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My daughter spent the last 7 years in Israel and came back to a university job here a few months ago in a Middle east project.  She expects Israel to both attempt expansion and be attacked.

The CW angle looks well-blown with the offer to give them up to international control - though that will still leave room to claim the usual inscrutable non-cooperating Arabs ploy.  Factions in Iran will probably send reinforcements on US climb-down.  Bahrain, Saudi, Yemen, Oman and Qatar have revolutionary movements(though oppression is well-organised) that might rise with Persian help.  The Congress vote is unlikely to be the last of all this.

My guess on the real strategy is that it concerns keeping the world non-modern for exploitation by a small super-elite surrounded by 15% beneficiaries - not unlike, say, Bahrain.  We seem to have given up on their military action lies, but the grip of their economic control fraud seems less exposed to the point of public rejection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter spent the last 7 years in Israel and came back to a university job here a few months ago in a Middle east project.  She expects Israel to both attempt expansion and be attacked.</p>
<p>The CW angle looks well-blown with the offer to give them up to international control &#8211; though that will still leave room to claim the usual inscrutable non-cooperating Arabs ploy.  Factions in Iran will probably send reinforcements on US climb-down.  Bahrain, Saudi, Yemen, Oman and Qatar have revolutionary movements(though oppression is well-organised) that might rise with Persian help.  The Congress vote is unlikely to be the last of all this.</p>
<p>My guess on the real strategy is that it concerns keeping the world non-modern for exploitation by a small super-elite surrounded by 15% beneficiaries &#8211; not unlike, say, Bahrain.  We seem to have given up on their military action lies, but the grip of their economic control fraud seems less exposed to the point of public rejection.</p>
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		By: John Souter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Souter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 21:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are around elven different factions in Syria, with differing and different affiliations and alliances and all compounded by internal and the external aspirations of their neighbours and those of the global conglomerates.

David&#039;s theory on the role of Qatar is interesting but merely a minor collateral factor. that apart there are three major factors all of which encourage if not sustain the quagmire of the Middle East.

The first is religion, which, since probably time immemorial, has claimed to have the answer to everything, but as time has proved, has the solution to nothing.

The second is the shuffle of Empires and the hegemony of world order. The empire of America is dying and is now costing more than its worth, while China and Russia are manoeuvring to be the main contenders.

But it&#039;s the third who are the real contenders. They neither care nor consider nations, boundaries nor peoples. Their only permanent interests are assets and profits. In all three of the countries mentioned, and probably a lot more, they have bought the rights to control whatever political process is supposedly in power. For a pittance they have bought the no cost, no responsibility options.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are around elven different factions in Syria, with differing and different affiliations and alliances and all compounded by internal and the external aspirations of their neighbours and those of the global conglomerates.</p>
<p>David&#8217;s theory on the role of Qatar is interesting but merely a minor collateral factor. that apart there are three major factors all of which encourage if not sustain the quagmire of the Middle East.</p>
<p>The first is religion, which, since probably time immemorial, has claimed to have the answer to everything, but as time has proved, has the solution to nothing.</p>
<p>The second is the shuffle of Empires and the hegemony of world order. The empire of America is dying and is now costing more than its worth, while China and Russia are manoeuvring to be the main contenders.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s the third who are the real contenders. They neither care nor consider nations, boundaries nor peoples. Their only permanent interests are assets and profits. In all three of the countries mentioned, and probably a lot more, they have bought the rights to control whatever political process is supposedly in power. For a pittance they have bought the no cost, no responsibility options.</p>
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		By: groundedkiwi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[groundedkiwi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139148&quot;&gt;INCUBUS&lt;/a&gt;.

water was one of the great prizes from Libya.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River

Gaddifi spent over 20 billion on this project.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139148">INCUBUS</a>.</p>
<p>water was one of the great prizes from Libya.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River</a></p>
<p>Gaddifi spent over 20 billion on this project.</p>
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		By: steviefinn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steviefinn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139203&quot;&gt;allcoppedout&lt;/a&gt;.

John McCain has probably read the mad senior officers manual &#038; guess who his backers are :

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=60371]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono-part-2-a-partial-analysis/#comment-139203">allcoppedout</a>.</p>
<p>John McCain has probably read the mad senior officers manual &amp; guess who his backers are :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=60371" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=60371</a></p>
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		By: neretva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neretva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It remains hard to see what outcome they want, ....&quot;

They want a situation such as &quot;Afganistanization&quot;, &quot;Somalization&quot;, &quot;Iraqization&quot; and so on, of Syria. 

“They make a desert and call it peace”, that is what they want. They are modern Crusaders, in full sense of that word and full with religious fervor and zeal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It remains hard to see what outcome they want, &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>They want a situation such as &#8220;Afganistanization&#8221;, &#8220;Somalization&#8221;, &#8220;Iraqization&#8221; and so on, of Syria. </p>
<p>“They make a desert and call it peace”, that is what they want. They are modern Crusaders, in full sense of that word and full with religious fervor and zeal.</p>
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