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		By: moncler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 04:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good article for read, lot of discuss]]></description>
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		By: HomerJS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139009&quot;&gt;Ole Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

A link giving a similar perspective re the chemical attack.

http://sparaszczukster.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/details-about-chemical-attack-in-damascus-you-wont-be-hearing-on-bbc-or-sky-news/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139009">Ole Guy</a>.</p>
<p>A link giving a similar perspective re the chemical attack.</p>
<p><a href="http://sparaszczukster.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/details-about-chemical-attack-in-damascus-you-wont-be-hearing-on-bbc-or-sky-news/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sparaszczukster.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/details-about-chemical-attack-in-damascus-you-wont-be-hearing-on-bbc-or-sky-news/</a></p>
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		By: tip		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139017&quot;&gt;The Dork of Cork.&lt;/a&gt;.

Dork!   dood, you&#039;re on fire in this thread.

as long as we choose to remain dependent for
food/water/energy/waste removal (hi Steve!)
The Song Remains the Same
(even when remixed)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139017">The Dork of Cork.</a>.</p>
<p>Dork!   dood, you&#8217;re on fire in this thread.</p>
<p>as long as we choose to remain dependent for<br />
food/water/energy/waste removal (hi Steve!)<br />
The Song Remains the Same<br />
(even when remixed)</p>
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		By: richard in norway		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139128&quot;&gt;allcoppedout&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you a cop with a blog?]]></description>
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<p>Are you a cop with a blog?</p>
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		By: tip		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 23:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139015&quot;&gt;The Dork of Cork.&lt;/a&gt;.

nice one dork.
but riddle me this:
what is the relative size of infinity?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139015">The Dork of Cork.</a>.</p>
<p>nice one dork.<br />
but riddle me this:<br />
what is the relative size of infinity?</p>
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		By: allcoppedout		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Much of the radical argument can be found in video form here http://stormcloudsgathering.com/

Going in deep, evidence is received in a world-view and we pretty much shatter the standard one and are pretty much talking about false consciousness.  We heard our MPs talk of cui bono, but thinking of the techniques and evidence I would give in fraud cases, there is no investigative effort being made on the money trails or the network of the fraudsters.  The criminal legal system is captured and this leaves us with &#039;intelligence&#039; rather than evidence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the radical argument can be found in video form here <a href="http://stormcloudsgathering.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stormcloudsgathering.com/</a></p>
<p>Going in deep, evidence is received in a world-view and we pretty much shatter the standard one and are pretty much talking about false consciousness.  We heard our MPs talk of cui bono, but thinking of the techniques and evidence I would give in fraud cases, there is no investigative effort being made on the money trails or the network of the fraudsters.  The criminal legal system is captured and this leaves us with &#8216;intelligence&#8217; rather than evidence.</p>
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		By: Unhappy Hobbit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article and some excellent info in the comments above.

My reading of events goes like this:


1. The US economy is living on borrowed time. The US debt is about to explode - the baby boomer generation (1943 to 1960) have started to hit retirement age (67?) and their Social Security and Medicare bills will hit the economy hard.

2. The PetroDollar is losing its primacy. How much longer will the Dollar be considered to be the world&#039;s reserve currency? China and Russia are using their own currencies in bilateral trades, China has agreed currency swaps with Brazil, Australia and Japan (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18545978). India and Japan did something similar in 2011 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/28/us-india-japan-trade-idUSTRE7BR0N020111228). Iran is selling oil outside the US and EU sanctions (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-29/india-and-china-skirt-iran-sanctions-with-junk-for-oil-.html) and not trading in Dollars. Iran and Russia are also trading in their local currencies (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-07/iran-russia-replace-dollar-with-rial-ruble-in-trade-fars-says.html). This means the dollar will steadily weaken as demand for it lessens. So oil priced in dollars will go up leading to inflation (in the US and Europe). The US will have to pay more on its bonds as it continues to try to fund its ever increasing debt burden, leading to rising interest rates everywhere (What happens if China decide enough is enough and stop buying US bonds?). When interest rates rise in the US and Europe, interesting times will surely follow.

3. I used to think that Peak Oil would come into the equation; I still wonder if that is not a factor at play in the background. The Canadian Tar Sands used to be all the rage as the next big source of oil, but they are not proving to be particularly efficient with regards to energy returned on investment (EROI) (http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20130219/oil-sands-mining-tar-sands-alberta-canada-energy-return-on-investment-eroi-natural-gas-in-situ-dilbit-bitumen). But more recently, the focus has been all on Shale Gas and the gas reserves found in the Eastern Mediterranean (Cyprus, Syria) and the massive fields under Iran/Qatar. This switch to gas makes me wonder just how much oil the arabs have left.

4. A Memorandum of Understanding for an Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline was signed in Bushehr in June 2011 (just as the Syrian &#039;uprising&#039; was getting going). (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines) This pipeline would link to Turkey and in effect allow Iranian gas to be sold into the homes of Europe.

5. Qatar (home of the 2022 World Cup, remember) have a proposed pipeline running through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq to Turkey.

6. The complexities of Arab societies - Shias, Sunnis, Salafists, Alawites etc are coming to the boil. These religious, sectarian and tribal conflicts cut across national borders. If Assad is toppled, it is not hard to see the Balkanisation of Syria, a break-up into much smaller provinces, at each other&#039;s throats for years to come. Iraq is already heading in that direction. So is Libya, and what is to happen with Egypt?

7. I also wonder that the US continue to fund Israel ($3.1bn in 2013 for Foreign Military Financing), whilst at the same time providing plenty of weapons to whichever Arab faction suits its current purposes. Arms dealers eh! Just a thought.

The cabal that want to rule the world know all this. They need to play for time so they can reposition themselves to be the ones who will control the follow-up to the dollar, the one they intend to be the new world currency. To do this, they HAVE to reassert control over the supply of oil and other resources. They have planned these wars for many years. In 2007 General Wesley Clark (retired NATO Secretary General) revealed that the US had plans to attack and destroy the governments of 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1rEhovONU) as far back as 2002.

At best, I think the current Syria crisis will perpetuate regional instability that could last decades; at worst, a US strike on Syria will take us that much closer to a region-wide inferno. How will the US react if one of their ships is hit by retaliatory strikes from Syria or Iran? Since the end of the Cold War, the US has been able to throw its weight about unchecked because it believes that Russia and China would not risk a global confrontation. But Putin is not like the drunk Yeltsin. Is a third World War on the cards? We should bring back the Doomesday Clock and set it for 5 to midnight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and some excellent info in the comments above.</p>
<p>My reading of events goes like this:</p>
<p>1. The US economy is living on borrowed time. The US debt is about to explode &#8211; the baby boomer generation (1943 to 1960) have started to hit retirement age (67?) and their Social Security and Medicare bills will hit the economy hard.</p>
<p>2. The PetroDollar is losing its primacy. How much longer will the Dollar be considered to be the world&#8217;s reserve currency? China and Russia are using their own currencies in bilateral trades, China has agreed currency swaps with Brazil, Australia and Japan (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18545978" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18545978</a>). India and Japan did something similar in 2011 (<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/28/us-india-japan-trade-idUSTRE7BR0N020111228" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/28/us-india-japan-trade-idUSTRE7BR0N020111228</a>). Iran is selling oil outside the US and EU sanctions (<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-29/india-and-china-skirt-iran-sanctions-with-junk-for-oil-.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-29/india-and-china-skirt-iran-sanctions-with-junk-for-oil-.html</a>) and not trading in Dollars. Iran and Russia are also trading in their local currencies (<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-07/iran-russia-replace-dollar-with-rial-ruble-in-trade-fars-says.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-07/iran-russia-replace-dollar-with-rial-ruble-in-trade-fars-says.html</a>). This means the dollar will steadily weaken as demand for it lessens. So oil priced in dollars will go up leading to inflation (in the US and Europe). The US will have to pay more on its bonds as it continues to try to fund its ever increasing debt burden, leading to rising interest rates everywhere (What happens if China decide enough is enough and stop buying US bonds?). When interest rates rise in the US and Europe, interesting times will surely follow.</p>
<p>3. I used to think that Peak Oil would come into the equation; I still wonder if that is not a factor at play in the background. The Canadian Tar Sands used to be all the rage as the next big source of oil, but they are not proving to be particularly efficient with regards to energy returned on investment (EROI) (<a href="http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20130219/oil-sands-mining-tar-sands-alberta-canada-energy-return-on-investment-eroi-natural-gas-in-situ-dilbit-bitumen" rel="nofollow ugc">http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20130219/oil-sands-mining-tar-sands-alberta-canada-energy-return-on-investment-eroi-natural-gas-in-situ-dilbit-bitumen</a>). But more recently, the focus has been all on Shale Gas and the gas reserves found in the Eastern Mediterranean (Cyprus, Syria) and the massive fields under Iran/Qatar. This switch to gas makes me wonder just how much oil the arabs have left.</p>
<p>4. A Memorandum of Understanding for an Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline was signed in Bushehr in June 2011 (just as the Syrian &#8216;uprising&#8217; was getting going). (<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines</a>) This pipeline would link to Turkey and in effect allow Iranian gas to be sold into the homes of Europe.</p>
<p>5. Qatar (home of the 2022 World Cup, remember) have a proposed pipeline running through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq to Turkey.</p>
<p>6. The complexities of Arab societies &#8211; Shias, Sunnis, Salafists, Alawites etc are coming to the boil. These religious, sectarian and tribal conflicts cut across national borders. If Assad is toppled, it is not hard to see the Balkanisation of Syria, a break-up into much smaller provinces, at each other&#8217;s throats for years to come. Iraq is already heading in that direction. So is Libya, and what is to happen with Egypt?</p>
<p>7. I also wonder that the US continue to fund Israel ($3.1bn in 2013 for Foreign Military Financing), whilst at the same time providing plenty of weapons to whichever Arab faction suits its current purposes. Arms dealers eh! Just a thought.</p>
<p>The cabal that want to rule the world know all this. They need to play for time so they can reposition themselves to be the ones who will control the follow-up to the dollar, the one they intend to be the new world currency. To do this, they HAVE to reassert control over the supply of oil and other resources. They have planned these wars for many years. In 2007 General Wesley Clark (retired NATO Secretary General) revealed that the US had plans to attack and destroy the governments of 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1rEhovONU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1rEhovONU</a>) as far back as 2002.</p>
<p>At best, I think the current Syria crisis will perpetuate regional instability that could last decades; at worst, a US strike on Syria will take us that much closer to a region-wide inferno. How will the US react if one of their ships is hit by retaliatory strikes from Syria or Iran? Since the end of the Cold War, the US has been able to throw its weight about unchecked because it believes that Russia and China would not risk a global confrontation. But Putin is not like the drunk Yeltsin. Is a third World War on the cards? We should bring back the Doomesday Clock and set it for 5 to midnight.</p>
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		By: richard in norway		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139120&quot;&gt;waswinga&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course we are taking sides, usually both sides unless there are more than two sides]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.golemxiv.co.uk/2013/09/syria-cui-bono/#comment-139120">waswinga</a>.</p>
<p>Of course we are taking sides, usually both sides unless there are more than two sides</p>
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		By: steviefinn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The plot sickens ?

http://www.alternet.org/economy/larry-summers-and-syria]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/economy/larry-summers-and-syria" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.alternet.org/economy/larry-summers-and-syria</a></p>
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		By: waswinga		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now that we know that Obama is to go for a 60 day window to &#039;degrade&#039; Assad&#039;s defences, we can seriously doubt that there was ever any intention to limit the strike  to a mere &#039;shot across the bow&#039; which was patently a futile gesture. It would have inevitably have escalated. Which leads on to what the covert intention might be.The US military suggest taking out his air power and air defences. That would of course be very useful to Israel in any future attempt to attack Iran. It feels like Iran is the ultimate target. The point for us is did our own PM know/suspect there was a hidden agenda?Are we to take sides in a religious war between the Sunnis and the Shias? Is it oil again?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we know that Obama is to go for a 60 day window to &#8216;degrade&#8217; Assad&#8217;s defences, we can seriously doubt that there was ever any intention to limit the strike  to a mere &#8216;shot across the bow&#8217; which was patently a futile gesture. It would have inevitably have escalated. Which leads on to what the covert intention might be.The US military suggest taking out his air power and air defences. That would of course be very useful to Israel in any future attempt to attack Iran. It feels like Iran is the ultimate target. The point for us is did our own PM know/suspect there was a hidden agenda?Are we to take sides in a religious war between the Sunnis and the Shias? Is it oil again?</p>
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