When other countries are lining up to get a bail out Ireland is fighting tooth and nail to avoid one. Why?
Does it not seems a little strange to you? I want to suggest that many experts are looking in the wrong place for an answer.
A major part of the reason Ireland is resisting a European led bail out is because of the German led enthusiasm for increasing Ireland’s corporate tax rate. The connection may not seem immediately convincing so let me see if I can offer you an argument.
Ireland became the Celtic Tiger for three reasons. First it has a very low rate of corporate tax. Second it had already in place lots of reciprocal tax agreements to avoid any double taxing. So profits booked in Ireland into an Irish subsidiary of a foreign bank or corporation would only get a low rate of tax applied. Third, there was an incredibly lax regulatory system, if one can call a blind eye a system.
Take a look at where the big American corporations have their European or even world-outside-of-America HQ. Ireland every time. The reason is the low tax rate. Very, very large US Companies which I could name but won’t for legal reasons and ask you to think of them yourself, as well as a host of Russian companies are based or have their HQ in Ireland for tax reasons. Companies making sales in Taiwan, India or Spain were and still are booking their profit in Ireland.
The Irish exchequer benefits from tax revenue it would never get otherwise. Because without meaning any disrespect there would be few reasons for them to chose Ireland were it not for the tax rates. The company benefits from low taxes and ease of repatriation of the profits back home – where ever that might eventually be.
The Irish banks, both Irish ones such as Allied Irish, Anglo Irish and BoI, as well as Irish subsidiaries of European and American banks would benefit by these huge profits passing through their books giving them huge liquidity and wonderful capital holdings. Much of the money may have only been passing through but like a flow through a pipe, the pipe was always delightfully full. And some of the money stayed.
And the blind man’s buff oversight regime meant all sorts of wonderful things could be done in Ireland that home regulators might not allow. More on this in a later post. Put these things together and you have the reasons for and the engine of Ireland’s growth and success. And it is the hope, the only hope, of both the previous government of Ireland and its present one, that this miraculous money making magic can be restarted.
Now imagine for a minute that one part of this system, the tax part were to be discontinued. What do you think would happen?
I think Ireland would find that banks and corporations might not be so keen on staying in Ireland and new business might not even look at them. And yet this is what some in mainland Europe are advocating as part of the ‘concrete roadmap’ they want Ireland to show them as the necessary plan for recovery in order to get a bail out.
On one level you could say it is perfectly reasonable that those who might bail Ireland out should want to see Ireland increasing its tax revenue. Fair enough, but there is also the very obvious and transparent aspect of cutting off Ireland’s financial edge and feathering their own nest. Germany and others force Ireland to stop its low tax regime. A regime that undercut their own tax rates. Ireland is forced to raise it tax rate and suddenly Germany and others say, “Well why not some over to us now.”
This, I think, is a major part of what is going on in the bail out discussions. This is why Ireland does not want to agree the bail outs being offered.
This also explains one other thing. It explains why so many banks and private corporations were, shall we say ‘keen’ for Ireland to offer its blanket bank guarantee back in ’08. If the banks had gone under those companies would have lost all the revenue they had in those banks and found their world wide banking and corporate structures paralysed. Imagine a very large software company finding its bank, where it had many billions on deposit suddenly not only frozen but GONE. Imagine the same corporation finding it had a world non-US HQ in a country where it had no banking facilities. Imagine what would happen to its own cash flow.
I don’t think it unreasonable to imagine said company, and many others you will find listed as domiciled in Ireland, getting on the phone and applying a little pressure, explaining a few consequences. Call this conspiracy if you wish. I think it is more just thinking through the natural consequences and asking yourself what you would do.
This same companies are still in Ireland. But I seriously wonder if their cash is still going through Irish banks in quite the same volume. It may be given that till now the tax benefits are still as attractive as they were. But I would also wonder if part of the reason the Irish banks never seem to heal but seem instead to just bleed and bleed, is because as fast as they are given money by the state, the companies are withdrawing their capital to more stable places. Corporate capital flight on a very large scale.
I think the bail out is being used to try to steal business away from Ireland. We can argue about whether that business has done Ireland any good but you can still see why Irish banks and politicians might feel angry and try to resisit.
Not a nice to feel your friend’s knife in your back.

Makes sense to me. I've banged out a few books in my time and I was always envious/incredulous that you never had to pay tax on royalties (or any money from artistic endeavours) if you were based in Ireland. Who knew that business enjoyed similar dispensations. I suppose now those big companies are now doing a Bono…..
I think everything bends to their needs right now. They call the tune, the Irish people are expected to dance a jig for their pleasure and profit. Makes me feel angry.
You dont need to have all your money in an Irish Bank, I would expect they would have just enough to cover their costs on a 6 monthly or annual basis with the real money left in dollars offshore or with the main holding banks eg. USA. As you know firms slosh money around to spread risks and make investments, it would be suicide have it in one place at one time considering what happened to Iceland.
I think the most important thing is to look at what Ireland does to actually make money? It was once a total basket case so had deliberately had low tax rates to get firms to go there sprinkled on top with lots of EU development money. What natively does Ireland actually export except beef? It has a tourist industry yep and that is Irish industry in a nutshell.
If corporate tax rates go up you can get the large firms will leave and Ireland will be in even more mess than it is now. That would be death knell. Sure the EU or IMF can loan the money but if its the case that Ireland has to come into line and remove its edge whats the point of it all as simply that money will be impossible to be repaid.
Mike,
what you say is true. But it also has to be said it has already cost Ireland and its people 30-50 billion euros to keep the banks there due to the bail outs.
Rock and hard place. I happen to think their leaders have made sure the Irish people have got the worst of all worlds and suffered both the rock and the hard place.
i have just read a report in an irish newspaper that one of their banks lost 10 billon in corporate deposits, other banks have similar problems. you were right, massive capital outflows
Always trust the rats to know when the ship is actually sinking.
these deposits were withdrawn late august early September, some people were taking no chances
the article is in the Irish independent
Thanks. i'll look.
Bu if you could post a link I am sure others here would be grateful.
sorry i don't know how
headline is New injection of cash won't end banking trouble, experts warn
Tell the truth I don't know either. But this is the url
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-injection-of-cash-wont-end-banking-trouble-experts-warn-2423814.html
You had me at "very low rate of corporate tax."
There's another way Ireland is losing big, and it's somewhat paradoxical in relation to their formerly booming economy.
So the big corps come to Ireland, including a lot of tech corps. They need educated workers, so while the money's flowing young people are in college learning the skills needed to work at these tech companies.
But now that the economy is circling the drain, these same quite educated people are leaving in droves.
And it's not like the old days when people left Ireland due to hunger, or looking for more opportunity, or whatever. Now it's a serious brain drain.
The future of Ireland is walking out the door, possibly never to return. So over the next ~50 years, Ireland will have even more mediocre simpletons in power than they already have.
Another 10 points to you Golem. Your suspicions regarding the desire to retain low corporate tax rates were echoed on the World Service this morning.
Could you please take another look at the topic title, it says 'resisiting' instead of 'resisting'. Knowing of your dyslexia I ignore the odd typo, but the title is rather exposed to t'Internet and the hungry maws of the search engines.
Such power from the Internet, one wonders what the sound of a billion swivelling eyeballs is like.
Rich,
Sigh! Thank you Rich. You know I looked at it when I typed it and thought there was something not right about the title but couldn't for the life of me see anything amiss.
I talked to banker yesterday who confirmed what I said in this article. He said there is real friction between Irish and German regulators and there are people who really want to use this an an oportunity to settle old scores.
What legal reasons prevent you from naming corporations headquartered in Ireland? They have to be publicly registered after all.
Oliver Mooney,
I can certaily name global companies who have chosent to register themselves or even HQ themselves in Ireland. Microsoft, Apple, Ebay I think are all there. I suppose I was thinking to be more cautious with the banks and their affiliates. One in particular is feeling very legalistic at the moment and I and others are being careful.
They can make life very difficult if they want to, even if, in the end they were to have to withdraw their complaints, they have often done the damage they wanted in the interim. Closing you down, putting injunctions, having a word with net providers, that sort of thing.
Many of the big banks and financial specialist law firms come to the site every day. I don't think they come for tips on banking.
Hi Golem,
Thanks for the response. I had wondered if one bank in particular was on your mind alright!
Yes, those companies you mentioned all have their European HQs here, as do others such as Google. It frustrates me sometimes to have that kind of activity equated with a nominal office opened in Ireland for regulatory purposes by some shady financial institution. Google et al employ hundreds of highly-skilled workers – they don't just come for the low corporation tax.
Oliver.