Liars Lexicon – Mark to Market.

I thought it was time to draft another entry in the Liars Lexicon.  This time let’s look at Mark to Market/Model. A dual item which divides opinion and upon which a very great deal hangs.

Mark to Market versus Mark to Model; Or as I would put it, telling the truth versus lying through your teeth.  Neither one is very hard.

Mark to Market, also known as ‘Fair Value’ accounting is straightforward.  To value an asset you simply look at what you could sell it for today on the open market.  What could be simpler?  It’s an objective measure that everyone can see.  Mark to Market, even its detractors agree, provides a transparent and public way of seeing who is solvent and who is not. Which is precisely why the banks detest it and tirelessly argue instead for the comforting opacity of Mark to Model.

Mark to Model requires a computer, someone to programme it, access to all the bank’s commercially sensitive and secret data about its assets, a cast iron agreement that none of the confidential data will be made public and because of the foregoing, a whole lot of faith and trust in the output of the secret model and the confidential data fed into it.

It is an unexplained mystery, therefore,  how it came to be, that in 2007 of all years, Mark to Market was adopted by the International Accounting Standards Board (IASB) and its American counterpart, the Federal Accounting Standards Board (FASB). It is a lot less of a mystery why Mark to Market was suddenly suspended in favour of Mark to Model.

The Downward Spiral Argument.

From the moment the banks realized, some time in 2008-09, that sub-prime was, despite assurances, NOT ‘contained’ the banks spared no effort or expense in a campaign to have the new Mark to Market rule suspended. Bankers and their friends argued that Mark to Market was too simplistic, did more harm than good and was responsible for much of the damage of the financial crisis.  Funny how, according to the bankers and their pals, it wasn’t defaulting loans or fraudulent CDO’s, but a bad accounting rule, that was ‘really’ causing the crisis.

Here, from an article in Forbes from January 2009, is a clear exposition of some of the Banking lobby’s main arguments against Mark to Market.  I chose this particular article because it was one that seemed to have an influence at the time and was quoted by others.

If you’re interested here, is a follow up article by Newt Gingrich the darling of US Libertarian ‘no government is good government’, “Contract with America” which quotes Wesbury and Stein’s article and expands on the same arguments.

Brian Wesbury and Robert Stein, were senior economists at First Trust Advisers, an American Asset Management firm. Mr Wesbury was a regular writer for Bloomberg and appeared frequently on CNBC.  Mr Wesbury had also been an advisor to the Joint Economic Committee of the US Congress and, in 2008, stated confidently in an interview that the US was not in recession and that it was a good time to buy stocks.  But don’t let that put you off. He has a PhD and everything.

Anyway, in 2009 he and Robert Stein wrote in their article entitled, “Mr President, Suspend Mark to Market”, that,

What many people do not realize is that mark-to-market accounting existed in the Great Depression and, according to Milton Friedman, was an important reason behind many bank failures…

A killer double whammy already.  In one sentence they frighten us with the dark spectre of the Great Depression and then, as if to save us from it, immediately reveal the holy light of the great Friedman.

The authors, and their hero Milton Friedman, argued that if banks are forced, by Mark to Market rules, to mark their assets to a falling market they get drawn in to a downward spiral.  The market looks at the falling valuation of the banks and sells shares in those banks and the assets they hold.  This depresses the value of the banks and their assets.  To maintain the legal minimum requirement of capital holdings, the banks which are in trouble are forced to sell assets in order to get liquid cash. Because they are selling, in what amounts to a fire sale, the price is pushed further downward. Other banks, possibly even ones not yet in trouble, but holding similar assets, are forced to mark them to the new and declining market value.  This forces those other banks into trouble as the value of their assets evaporates and they too have to sell. The market becomes glutted with sellers and the prices accelerate downward.

Does this happen? Yes it does.  And so, as the authors go on to argue,

As long as these assets have the potential to be marked down, bank capital is at risk. And as long as bank capital is at risk, private investors will remain skeptical and banks will remain conservative, which impinges their willingness to lend.

The key in the last quote is the word “potential”. Get rid of the “potential” for those assets to “be marked down” and, by this argument at least, you solve the problem.  No ‘potential’, no panic.  But note the ‘slight of mind’ here.  The authors don’t say the “potential” for the assets to in actual fact become worth less than they were, but the potential for their paper value to be ‘marked down’.

In other words, for the authors, we don’t worry about actual worth, only about what number is marked down in the accounts. And that is the difference between Mark to Market and Mark to Model. One says there is a real world and in it are real values and it is these which are most important.  They are what count, especially in a crisis when real things might just have to be sold to pay real debt s in order to avoid real insolvency.

Mark to Model, on the other hand, says as long as we maintain confidence in paper values then we won’t have to sell and there won’t be any loses and if there’s aren’t any losses, then no one will be insolvent and there won’t be any crisis.  And that has been  the logic of our financial leaders and the people whose interests they have so faithfully served.

Mark to Model is what has shaped our entire response to this crisis.

But while Mark to Model obviates the need for valuations and sales it does not, because it can not, stop losses when they do occur.  And since real losses do still occur, Mark to Model needs a source of cash to support its steadfast refusal to value or sell anything.  If the banks won’t value let alone actually sell anything, lest in so doing they reveal how little their assets are worth, then they will need some other source of cash to pay the losses they suffer.

And that is why TARP and other bail outs had to be passed.  Not selling assets is fine AS LONG AS someone agrees to fund all your losses and ongoing cash needs.  Bailing out with public money, the bank’s real, actual losses is the stinking underbelly and unspoken cost and consequence of the Mark to Model policy.

That is why I take umbrage when the Mark to Model proponents claim  their policy of ‘saving’ the banks and also ‘saving us’ the ruinous cost of bank collapses and defaults.  What they don’t EVER mention is the  cost, now bankrupting whole nations, of paying the bankers real losses.

Sure, Bank ‘assets’ are no longer having their value destroyed by people ‘irresponsibly’ asking what they would be worth if they had to be sold, because with the Tax Payer funded Bail Outs and government purchases that question is no longer relevant, is it?

What is still relevant, however, and still a problem for the ‘deny and pretend’, mark to model policy is that we are being bankrupted and our civil society is being savaged in order that the banks can play pretend.

So that is my reply to the downward spiral argument against Mark to Market.

The Mis-pricing Argument.

The other argument against Mark to Market and in favour of Mark to Model, is that the Market does not price rationally in boom or bust.  In boom times the market exaggerates how much assets are worth and in bust times it underestimates.  Both if which I think are very likely to be true.

This second argument  against Mark to Market finds those who at any other time and in any other forum, would praise and worship the rational perfection of The Market, would insist that markets are THE best way to price anything and state with the zealot’s certainty that this rational pricing is why we should leave things to The Market – suddenly arguing that The Market is not so rational after all. An astonishing about face.

The authors wheel out premiere league support to take up this argument,

Sheila Bair, current chairman of the FDIC, recently said, “we don’t have really any rational pricing right now for some of these asset categories.” So why should banks be forced to mark these assets to market?

Here we have the amusing spectacle of Free Marketeers forced to claim that markets are wonderfully rational at all times except when it counts.  Suddenly the market mechanism is like the weather forecast, wonderful at forecasting sunny days in mid summer but couldn’t  tell you which way was up at any other time.

By this argument the Markets are essentially manic depressive.  What Keynes famously called the market’s “Animal Spirits” are in fact a Bipolar swing, back and forth from unreasonable exuberance to irrational depression with only a brief passage in between when some semblance of clarity dawns.  No wonder we have a regular rhythm of boom and bust.  And this is the hidden hand into whose trembling grip everything should be privatized and to whose lurching operation we should leave our future?

Good idea!

BUT, if this is how it is, then surely we should agree that Mark to Market, for all its common sense simplicity, would only make a stupid and unstable system even worse?  We may not like it but perhaps we have no choice?

And just to give the anti Mark to Market side a really fair shake of the stick let’s add in the final argument for their side which I am sure you have all heard trotted out – that many ‘exotic’ or ‘hard to value’ assets just can’t be valued by the market because there really isn’t a market for them. These exotic, ‘hard to value’ assets such as synthetic CDO’s are hugely complex and usually sold only once, to be held to maturity, often out of sight, in off-shore SPV’s and are rarely re-sold.  For all these reasons it is ‘very hard’ to value these products, especially in a falling market. Mark to Market will just not work for them.  They can only really be valued at close to the face value for which they were originally sold.  Which is convenient verging on the miraculous!

So to summarize, we cannot Mark to Market because the market over estimates values in the boom times, exaggerating the unfounded optimism of the upswing, and  under estimates values in the bust, making that too, worse than it has to be.  On top of which, half the time, for the bulk of the assets out there, no one in the market has any reliable idea what anything is worth because none of it was designed to be re-sold and there is therefore not much of a market out there in which to find their value.  At which point you can tell there has been genuine genius at work to make this ‘device’ that just cannot be defused.

Of course, say the bankers and their friends, don’t worry, the answer to ALL these problems is to Mark to Model.

Stop struggling and accept it….The Banks create a model which values the assets based on all sorts of comforting sounding expert complexities. The model doesn’t over or under estimate. It doesn’t get itself into a spiral and ignores those who do.  The model is rational, doesn’t imperil any one’s bank capital and best of all is impervious to political and popular meddling.  You see how easy it is when you just relax and trust those who know better.  And of course we can see they really do know better than us because they are richer.

So, who makes these models? Well, the banks do. After all, they are the only ones who know what these ‘assets’ have in them and how they were made in the first place.

Couldn’t we still know how they work so we could understand for ourselves? Well, actually no, that would be a problem.  You see if the banks told us how their models worked it would reveal far too much of what the assets were and someone might be able to work out what they might be worth on the open market.  Which would put us back to square one.

This was the same reason why we weren’t allowed to know how the famous bank Stress Tests worked. If they’d told us how the tests were done we might have seen that the banks were actually not as healthy as the tests declared them to be. In fact we might have concluded that the banks were insolvent.

And therein lies my first problem.  The Stress Test are, to my mind, a great and clear example of why Mark to Model is nothing but a scam.

The Stress Tests in America and later in Europe were a farce. Nobody trusted them and nobody was  reassured, because the banks did not allow any Stress Test to be created that might show them as failing. The exact same thing happens with Mark to Model accounting. The banks make sure any model they build and use does the job the banks need done. And what is that job?  Well it is to erase any pricing uncertainty by the simple stroke of showing how the assets and the banks holding them are FINE.  Just exactly like the Stress Tests.

For two years the banks have used Mark to Model accounting and the models have shown what the Stress Tests confirned, that all the banks are absolutely fine and solvent.  And yet they, at the same time, the big banks have made massive ‘surprise’ losses, the US regional banks continue to go bust every week and European banks in Ireland, Portugal and Greece and the Cajas in Spain are all on ECB life support.

Asking the banks to model the worth of assets that ‘must’ be shown to be valuable otherwise the banks die, is likely to only have one outcome.  There will be a natural competitive pressure on all banks to have their model ‘calculate’ the worth of their assets as just a little higher than their competitor’s model did for theirs. As high as possible in the boom market and as far from the bottom in the bust.

It isn’t a matter of trust. It’s a matter of survival. Asking the Banks to not lie about the worth of their assets is like asking Bubonic plague to be fair and nice.  Fair doesn’t come in to it.  It’s in its nature to infect you, turn your own defences against you, run riot and leave you bleeding and covered in sores, as it moves on to infect another victim. Trust me, I’m a viral infection!

The Bank Stress Tests are a recent working example of how banking ‘self valuation’ does not and will not work. The only way it ever would, is if  Mother Teresa and Albert Einstein had had a secret love child and this saintly genius created and policed all the models.

Well what about the fact that some assets don’t have a market and can’t be priced?

I put this to a banker friend of mine.  He laughed. We make these ‘assets’  complex,  hard to price and therefore rarely re-sold, precisely so that they can’t be valued and will always be hidden away in off-shore SIV’s.  That is the point of it all, he said.  We deliberately make things that can’t be priced, because then who can come back at you and say you mis-sold us a ‘sack of shit’, even if someone leaves a silly memo admitting it, as JP Morgan apparently did?

My answer, to the ‘oh so hard to value exotic assets’ argument, is simple and straightforward. Don’t make assets you can’t value.  There is no imperative for making ‘too-exotic-to-price’ assets. So don’t make them.  And if you make them anyway, then it is your problem not ours. Dont bleat about it afterwards.

Mark to Market is the perfect mechanism to make sure that banks do not saddle us all with ‘assets’ which cannot be valued or re-sold: The sort of toxic and unstable fraud-friendly assets for which the market is so fragile that if a cricket farts the whole thing seizes up and we have to bail out the entire shit heap.

Mark to Model is what is keeping the banks alive.  Without it they would die.  We are not keeping good banks from being destroyed in the heat of a sudden, panic sell-off at fire sale prices.  That story might have washed in ’08, but it is nearly three years later.

If the banks and their assets cannot now stand being valued on the market they need to die to rid us of their festering lies and fraud.

Mark to Model has allowed the Big Banks to hide their insolvency from us and from those who invest in them.  As Kathleen Barrington, one of Ireland’s best and most honourable financial journalists, showed recently, the Mark to Model rules allowed banks like UniCredit to take ‘assets’, that if valued on the market would have been savaged because no one wants them, and simply move them to another column where they can be valued at face value. An asset that no one wanted to buy and whose value was open to question, simply by being moved to the  ‘Not for sale – Hold to maturity’ column, suddenly becomes a valuable ‘model’ asset and the bank looks pink and rosy.

To conclude,  this is from Zerohedge quoting a senior banker who was chief of the FDIC under Reagan writing about what a terrible thing Mark to Market, otherwise known as Fair Value accounting, is.

At some large banks, their loans’ fair value is billions of dollars less than their carrying amount.

That would dramatically reduce their shareholder equity—or assets minus liabilities—if the loans had to be carried at fair value.

As Zerohedge concluded,

Simply said, if everyone knew the truth, everyone would be insolvent.

32 thoughts on “Liars Lexicon – Mark to Market.”

  1. Very well explained Golem.

    They'll have to return to Mark-to-Market at some point. They can't hide forever.

    Moving on from the Bank Stress Tests, I sense an article for Repo 105 coming.

  2. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Thanks Rich,

    I always get concerned when posts become as long as this one. I begin to think I am presuming on people's time.

  3. Well your not impinging on my time.
    I think your comments are enlightening.
    You light up dark corners to clear light of day.
    You have the ability to explain complicated matters in a way that the economically uninitiated like myself understand. Your entire blog has removed a dark veil from the front of my eyes and I thank-you for that. Its a point of reference that enables me to understand complicated issues and see the right wing rhetoric and bullshit. Being bandied about today for the shameful self interested tripe it truly is.

  4. I am glad you got back to mark to market – I was hoping you were going to do some follow-up pieces.

    Very convincing presentation. It seems like most of the arguments against mark to market could be used by homeowners who don't want to accept that the "value" of their home is no longer what they paid for it at the height at bubble. Wouldn't mean that anyone actually wants to buy their house for silly money though.

  5. Thanks for the good summary David. One point you didn't mention is that surely this kind of deception regarding the value of assets is what caused the freeze in interbank lending and, for instance, the collapse of Northern Rock.

    So at some point the system must collapse because without trust any banks which smells a bit fishy is going to get cut off and go cap in hand to their central bank. Ultimately there is a domino effect as that loss of trust ripples outwards and depositors get jumpy. I'd hazard a guess it will be the housing market which does it for the banks since those assets are actually somewhat transparent.

    You'd have to hope that governments would have a timetable to reintroduce mark-to-market, at least for suitable assets, and thereby force a gradual shake-out of the system. Unfortunately that would require them to be in possession of a spine. Probably they know that the system is bust, but they are desperately trying to buy more time in hope of some magical solution appearing on the horizon.

    If you have leaders like Cameron or Clegg, who have such a privileged backgrounds, who have never had to stand on their own two feet without support, then I think it is inevitable that they will seek the path of least resistance. It's the political system that is fundamentally broken I fear, not society.

  6. When you talk of ' a Bipolar swing, back and forth from unreasonable exuberance to irrational depression with only a brief passage in between'. It is that the speculators feed off. Not for them the mundane economic life most people need. The certainty that the pound/dollar/euro will be worth the same tomorrow as it is today. Stability is the last thing they need. There's no profit in stability. The free market model they've created needs pulling down. I would argue that its the speculators in commodities. Creating the crisis in Egypt and other parts of the middle east.
    The fact is in September 2007 that model cracked. In 2008 it failed. All thats been do since then is to paper over the cracks. Until we change the model the speculators will always win.

  7. Here is a simple solution to bankers bonuses. By all means price the bonus on mark to market, but ensure that when they cash them in they are priced mark to market. Real cash – real value. Overnight the problem of excessive bonuses disappears!

  8. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    46Martman,

    Very glad you found it helpful. Couldn't agree more about the speculators desire for instability. You might like the piece I wrote about Volatility. It takes up exactly your point.

    David,

    I'm with you on your assessment of the spineless state of our political system.

    Thrawn pop,

    Thanks. Yes, if we tried to use the same logic for our debts the bankers would be the first to call out the army.

  9. dave from france

    Good one here by Lisa O'Carroll today at the Guardian Biz Page — on latest article by Michael Lewis.

    On-topic quote here —

    "It includes interviews with Brian Lenihan, Joan Burton, economist Morgan Kelly and one former Merrill Lynch bank trader who claimed he had offered to sell "a pile of bonds" back to one Irish bank for 50 cents in the dollar back in 2008 before the bank guarantee.

    "He's offered to take a huge loss, just to get out of them," says Lewis. When he woke up on 30 September to find the Irish government had guaranteed them "he couldn't believe his luck"."

    Say no more!

    On NAMA, corruption,planning gone crazy,'ghost developments',general deregulation, etc, this Uni research paper is excellent– http://www.nuim.ie/nirsa/research/documents/WP59-A-Haunted-Landscape.pdf

  10. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Dave,

    both the articles look great. thank you.

    Can of worms does not begin to cover it. More like a mass grave of crimes.

  11. Little I can say or add but say thanks for all your efforts. You are becoming a public service.
    Also some of the comments are worth a second read.
    It is making me wonder if there are not ways in which we can circumvent the system. ie people might start to consider banking and lending models which are both honest/transparent and also avoid the market system of excessive exuberance. Something like mutual associations and credit unions, but not quite.

    I was commenting recently on the
    'firewood sale" in the Guardian, which you mentioned a post or two ago. To be fair the guardian has given a lot of coverage to this issue.
    My point was that government has ceased to be a safe custodian of public assets, and that it should be possible for lots of people to do intensive lobbing of MPs-it works if there is enough effort- and also find some way to transfer assets into safe public associations with the purpose of managing public assets in a sustainable way -and to buy at the firesale prices proposed by the Tories. (This issue then becomes deeply connected to political philosophical issues as it reveals the very limited range of our democratic system,and the deficit of accountability, however it may be a necessary first step).
    The management of woodland is a major issue, as it creates 'unmanageable'assets, such as vast spruce plantations (i.e unmanageable to all except investors with experience and no instincts other than money making, and connections to industrial scale operators).
    Thus policy and management are seen to more or less exclude or inhibit genuine public involvement.( ie the assets paid for by the public are the object of manipulation by governments which may or may not be operating honestly.
    My feeling is that we should be trying to create a means to counter the sociopathic nature of the market.

    I also once got talking to a stockbroker in Newquay about 20 years ago who had made a very good living for years by tracking several shares and selling and buying between certain more or less fixed limits. In other words he expploited the volatility. Now i am sure his model was not going to work in all circumstances but he was adamant thatit had worked for his whole working life. I was astonished at the simplicity of his model and it suggested that many in the financial industry are not very smart-in fact almost the opposite-anyone with any spark self selects to do something more interesting than 'trade', but these people have become inordinately influencial.

  12. Cracking analysis of the "elephant in the room" G,

    I think that Brian Wesbury's comment that "It’s [subprime]just too small of a problem to take the economy down" should be tattooed to his forehead.

  13. Golem
    Enjoyed your post, but can you explain how all this was done in the UK. Have we moved away from mark-to-market in the UK? If so how was it done paul

  14. You will rarely find a person object to an auction as being a better way to discover price, than the seller merely setting the price. Especially if competing sellers are vying with competing buyers in the auction. But when it suits them , or when they somehow forget, they opt for price fixing. Madness.

    The Austrian School contends that mispricing by price fixing, and especially that of the central bank fixing the based price of money, from which all other prices flow, is THE cause of misinvestment, since all economic investment is lead by price, and so spawns boom and bust.

    Our leaders refuse to flush out the leverage, they cannot conscience a reversion to mean, they will not tolerate housing prices collapsing, they urge more credit for a credit binge problem and so we get mark-to-model bulldust and pretend and extend forever. This will end badly.

  15. Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophers

    David I follow your articles in Newsnet; enjoyed them -as much as you can enjoy the exposure of fraud feeding avarice by creating confusion from stupidity.

    Would it not be fair to say, all this idiocy is fuelled by fractional banking?

    And if so, given the trillions throughout the world given from the public purse; that under fractional rules they need only keep 5%, doesn't that mean they can now invest 19 times those trillion?

    Using the same argument, could they not be investing in bonds raised by the governments in order to cover the commitment of the public purse, thereby charging interest and making more money from the purse that saved them?

    Finally, considering the response to the crises by all the major governments and the arrogance displayed by the banks since, is it beyond comprehension that this ridiculous situation is more by design than incompetence.

  16. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Hello Crinkly & amp,

    They most assuredly are investing and speculating in bonds issued by teh government nand reaping a reward by so doing.

    It is now very much moe by design. The longer it goes on the more the design hardens into manacles.

    Fractional banking is part of it. The other less well appreciated part is teh issuance of securities and derivatives as a provate currency printed by and deabsed by the banks which now dwarfs in total amount even the fractionally leveraged currency issued by sovereign states.

    Welcome to you and I hope you will follow up this comment with others.

  17. We know its fraud squared and so do the perpetrators – as surely as ancient water-suppliers claiming to be in league with gods to protect their competitive advantage through technology (Peru). How do we collapse the fraudulent control (as in Egypt) and find more real-based stability?

  18. Great stuff David – I'd just like to second Pe's question – have the UK banks switched over to mark to model? When and how did this happen?

  19. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Cbristian ans Pe,

    We have also moved away from mark to market. If any large enough player in teh gloabl market allows mark to model then anyone who did not follow suit would be ensuring their banks were 'at a cpmpetative disadvantage' – as the worn saying goes. And so you end up always with the lowest common denominator.

  20. Thanks – that makes complete sense.

    Thanks also for your consistently excellent posts both here and (formerly?) on CiF – they are invariably more enlightening and lucid than what passes for analysis on the Guardian and elsewhere.

    Changing the subject slightly, have you seen Zeitgeist – Moving Forward, and if so what did you make of it?

  21. Cbristian ans Pe,

    I agree, I am just trying to trace the exact mechanism in the UK.
    Golem explains the process in terms of what happened in the US
    "After a frantic year of flooding lobbying money into the accounts of the relevant Senators and Congressmen and women, Mark to Market rules were suspended on 2nd April of 2009. They were replaced by rules called Mark to Model by which the banks could "..use significant judgement in gauging prices of some investments…"" [Forests, Fire sales and Mark to Market]. But how did it happen in the UK? Gillian Tett says in Fool's Gold that the banks tried and failed to suspend mark-to -market when the crisis first started.[p242]. Maybe it wasnt necessary to remove mark-to market because the accounting standard gives authority to companies to abandon it in crisis situations either because markets are not deemed normal, or because normal trading is not taking place in financial assets so they can be reclassified as Level 3 assets which effectively allows mark to market. See Wiki [Mark to Market] and Credit Writedowns at http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/04/a-few-comments-about-mark-to-market.html

    I am surprised there isnt more on the subject on the web

  22. Correction to the above, in the last para it should say "can be reclassified as Level 3 assets which effectively allows mark to model"

  23. I dont know David, you could write a great alternative economics text book! A kind of Devil's Dictionary to chop the nonsense out of it…Thanks for clarifying Mark to Market. Usual pithy clarity. What astonishes me most is not that these rules were suspended while the markets were in freefall… after all dealing in a company can be suspended for a time and even the Stock Market closed.. but these are necessarily temporary. The immediate crisis passes so does the need for these measures. After all the arguments you present for those wanting to suspend Mark to Markets all seem to be of the same "temporary crisis" perspective. Now things are "fine" and the bonuses are back ( if they ever left) why are there not fervent demands by analysts and rating agencies not to speak of investors or financial journalists for a return to proper accounting do you think? Does it seem that this change to, and remaining witb, Mark to Model is going without much real argument? I mean of course in the mainstream…

  24. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Mark to market is staying because without it there would be no "Now things are fine". Things would be revealed as parlous and the banks as insolvent.

  25. I assume you mean mark to model is staying, D?

    I gather both standards are used; mark to market when the equities have a profitable value, and M2M or a similar pricing system justified in high-falutin financial-newspeak that amounts to the same thing, when the "troubled" assets are, essentially, worthless.

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