Ireland, Greece and Portugal should Default

Ireland, Greece and Portugal should all default on their debt.

The problem with saying that is that as soon as you do, a great clucking flock of Chicken Littles come speeding out of their corners, kicking up dust and confusion and drowning out any attempt to discuss the issue beneath a frenzy of shrill cries of “Don’t listen to the madman. If you do the sky will fall on our heads.  All the banks will burn down, the ATM’s will all stop working, our houses will be re-possessed, all our pensions – OH WOE!  –  all our pensions will be seized and eaten by a rampaging army of angry vengeful Bond Holders and we will never, ever in the whole future of the universe be allowed to borrow money from the bond market ever again, till the end of time.”

So before they get here I want to say the sky would not fall in.  There is, in fact,  a history of sovereign default and restructuring of debt and there are recognized and tried methods for doing it. Those countries that have, Mexico, India, Russia, Argentina, Ecuador to name only a few, are still with us, are able to borrow on the bond markets and generally the sky did not fall on their heads nor on ours.

Somehow the word default has come to be for nations a bit like suicide is for people: terminal and immoral because of the misery it causes to those left behind. We must stop listening and believing those who take this view. They do so because it profits them for us to be afraid of default.

Greece can and, I argue, should default and sooner rather than later, for the reason that it is going to anyway. The bond market knows this. It has been made almost explicit in the newly agreed European Stabilization Mechanism (ESM). The ESM was the product of German and French negotiations for how to augment the EFSF (European Financial Stability Fund) with something more believable and long term.  But in the ESM there is the explicit agreement, which Germany insisted upon, that for bonds after 2013, some bond holders would be expected to share in any future losses on these bonds. Which has led to an expectation that 2013 marks the moment at which it will become accepted that Bond Holders in general should take losses and that this might well become retroactively applied. None of this is in the ESM but it is widely expected. And if these expected things came to pass, then Greece would be ‘free’, perhaps even encouraged, to restructure its debts by making bond holders take their share of the losses.

So default is already on the table it just has a thin cloth politely draped over it for now. Because it is on the table the bond market is, in a way, already pricing it in and that is helping to push up the costs of borrowing NOW for Greece, Ireland and Portugal. Thus it  would simply be better for both the Greek and Irish people and perhaps also for the Portuguese, and for the broader Bond market if they all got on with it .  Of course it would not be better for Germany nor France and that is the hold up.

Germany and France are trying to put off the moment when their banks will have to deal with more losses. They would rather have a few more years when their banks might raise more capital or make more money or, or…something.  And of course it is fine for them to put it off. In the interim it’s not their people who are suffering. It’s the Irish, the Greeks and the Portuguese.

It would be far, far better for the Irish and Greek people to default because they have already entered a terminal downward spiral last travelled by Zambia. Zambia, was forced principally by the IMF, at the point of a financial bayonet, down the road of crippling austerity cuts and trying to service a debt that grew faster than they could pay it off, forcing the country ever deeper into debt, not getting it out of it at all.  The IMF did not care and did not allow any deviation. In the end the IMF’s diktats caused Zambia’s economic output to collapse by 30% and instead of this solving its debts it caused their debt to GDP burden to double to 150%.

The IMF has learned nothing since then. It is ideologically and intellectually moribund but sadly still very powerful.

SO… Ireland, Greece and perhaps Portugal should default.  The questions then are: How, who decides how much, and what happens then?

Recently a campaign has been started in Greece and  now in Ireland as well for what is called a Debt Commission and Audit.  The idea is simple and has legal precedent.  The nation which decides to restructure its debt forms a Debt Commission. Such a Commission is generally made up of experts in debt, bond and Swaps contracts, forensic accountants, prominent civil servants, members of various civil society groups (Charities etc), interested NGOs and representatives of Labour Unions as well as employers organizations.  Such Commissions have to be nationally based with wide and varied roots in the broader civil society. A wide representation is essential to prevent it becoming the tool of any one group.

The purpose of the Commission is first to simply find out who is owed and by whom. What debt was private, what public and in each instance what was the debt for?  Would you like to know what debt has been bought by the Bank of England, or the Fed or the central Bank of Ireland?  I would. Or what debts we are insuring? I would, considering I am personally expected to pay for it out of my taxes.

The Commission’s next job is to establish if any of that debt was Odious, Illegitimate, Illegal or Unsustainable.  Each of these has legal standing and precedent and each is enough to send a cold shudder through board rooms of banks and their lawyers. For we already know, from a small tidal wave of cases pending in the US alone, that fraud there was. Lots of it. Many cases have already been ‘settled’ out of court. Time to close the option of settling on the court house steps and haul the malfactors into the public dock. Banker bashing? Those involved in fraud are criminals. Criminal bashing – You bet!

Odious debt is debt that was taken on by a former government that was in no way in the interests of the people or nation and which the people under a new government should not be asked to pay.  The USA was considering using the idea of Odious Debt to clear Iraq of Sadam’s debts. In the end, when they realized this could open a can of worms for ‘people’ who were still their friends, they reconsidered.

Illegitimate debts are when debts were taken on that are palpably contrary to the well being and interest of the people. For instance, bailing out Anglo Irish Bank, in which the Irish people had no deposits nor interest, would likely be found to be Illegitmate.

Illegal debts are those where fraud was involved in the selling and buying of the debt.  This could be fraudulent mis-selling, by not making clear the risks or liabilities etc. Many such cases are pending against the big banks right now in both Europe and the US.

And the most contentious, Unsustainable debt, is when debt was legally taken on, by a legitimate government but where repaying the debt would cause great harm to the lives of people in the nation who were never involved in the taking on of the debt. An example would be bailing out banks with public money who had made bad loans to some of the people but not all. Such debts cripple the lives of people who were never part of the debt and property bubble but whose taxes and savings are being plundered to bail out those who were, and the banks who encouraged them.

Can such a Commission actually work? One already did in Ecuador.  The Ecuadorians had a free and fair election. The winner won on a platform of debt restructuring. He formed the Commission. The Commission found a lot of the debt was Illegal and Immoral and the Ecuadorian government therefore said flatly it would NOT be paying.  The price of its bonds collapsed.  Once its debt was trading for a few cents on the dollar the government then bought it all back. Meaning it paid those who were holding its debt only a few cents on the dollar.

What happend then? Surely the sky fell in, and Ecuador was never allowed to borrow ever again? Well actually nothing of the sort.  You see the there isn’t any evidence that nations get locked or priced out of the bond market after default.  There is a short term spike and then a fairly rapid return to a rate  that is in line with the FUTURE prospects of the country.  Sure, the country defaulted and some of the bond market players lost money. but not all. And those who didn’t lose are likely to simply say, ‘glad it was them and not me, but now let’s talk business, shall we?’. The fact is, once a country has got rid of its debt overhang and, as a consequence, is much better placed to do well in the future, it becomes a much better prospect for lending to.  The market isn’t monolithic and has no loyalty to its own.  Think of the Bond Market as a tank of exceptionally greedy gold fish. They are ‘short’ memory and ‘long’ greed. They swim up and down looking only forward and forget what happened five minutes ago.  Goldfish Sachs.

Ecuador defaulted and within just a few years was back in the market selling debt. The rate wasn’t punitive but in line with its actual economic prospects which were improved by having rid itself of much of its old debt. Greece and Ireland would do well to take note.

Of course there would be massive opposition from the IMF, the EU, ECB, Germany on behalf of its banks and France on behaf of its banks.  But you know what?  A government is supposed to put the interests of its people ABOVE the interests of banks, bankers and Bond holders.

What about Pensions?  Pensions will do worse if our economies stagnate for a decade trying to pay off debts they cannot afford to pay, than if they take a huge loss now, AND THEN find they are in better, sounder financial shape going forward.  This is what the bond market will think too. As noted above, the bond market players themselves will look forward not back and simply see that going forward the nation that has defaulted is now in better shape to make everyone a profit than it was before. Growth is what sustains pensions NOT paying off old debts.  You can’t and won’t grow if your economy is weighed down paying debts.  That is the position we are in now and look at how every nation is reducing its estimates of growth. Portugal just revised their negative growth to be even more negative. There is a hint in there somewhere.

And lastly, the contentious notion of declaring perfectly legally agreed upon debts to be ‘Unsustainable’.  Surely this is just some woolly, do-gooder, semi socialist notion dreamt up by financial fat heads?  Actually it is just saying that just as there are laws against usury for people so there should be for nations.    A nation can, because of greed, stupidity or getting advice from bankers about how prices will ‘never go down’ and ‘it’s different this time’ get in to debt that cannot be paid off.  Companies that do it declare bankruptcy all the time. No one bats an eye.

Nation’s don’t get in to unsupportable debt on their own. Banks and bond holders have to help them. In the standard theory and legal practice of lending it is the duty of the lender to monitor the borrower to make sure too much debt is not being taken on. Lenders to Europe never bothered. Caveat emptor. Don’t think you can lend and lend and then tell the debtor it was their fault for taking on too much debt.  True they did. But it’s also true the lender helped them.  Both are at fault, both take the consequences.

You can find out more about this subject and make contact with those running the Debt Commission campaigns in Greece and Ireland here

18 thoughts on “Ireland, Greece and Portugal should Default”

  1. Hi Golem,

    I'll give this a read tomorrow but

    "Don't listen to the madman. If you do the sky will fall on our heads. All the banks will burn down, the ATM's will all stop working, our houses will be re-possessed, all our pensions"

    fair enough I'd rather government's bail out pensions and households than bankers 🙂

  2. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Anarchists Unite,

    Yes UK could but that really would be the end of the current global financial and political system.

  3. Anarchists Unite

    @ Golem/David

    Thanks for your reply.

    "…the end of the current global financial and political system."

    What are we waiting for, let's do it! 🙂

  4. If your main point is that bond buyers are only concerned with ability to pay, I fully agree. In the real world of finance, morality, legality, fairness have little meaning – sustainability is the only currency.

    Again, Europe may learn some lessons from what is already happening here in America. Every homeowner in the U.S. whose mortgage is greater than the value of their home, whether they are able to make the payment or not, is familiar with the concept of "strategic default". The practice has become widespread.

    In order to get a "loan modification" you must first demonstrate an "inability to pay". Millions of American home owners sent in all kinds of "proof" of their inability to pay. Nothing happened. Finally it dawned on everybody that the only proof of inability to pay was actual default. The only way to get a loan modification is to default.

    The lender therefore has a choice: modification or a forced sale. The loan servicer usually recommends the former because they continue to earn a servicing fee. Duh!

    As for credit ratings, it was not the homeowner's fault that the value of their home went down 30%, therefore a strategic default is no longer considered a credit derogatory.

    Ireland should simply do a "strategic default".

    Just as with the mortgage-backed securities' markets in the US, the world's sovereign bond markets have already discounted the Irish sovereign debt. In the case of American home loan debt some unlucky investment entity like the San Diego City Pension Fund had already taken the loss for fear of further losses. The same has already happened with Ireland's sovereign debt.

    Billions of dollars were made by those who bought mortgage-backed securities (and their derivatives) at deep discounts (from pension funds like ours here in San Diego) then succeeded in "depositing" them in banks and getting gullible (or corrupt) governments to guarantee them at par value.

    Ireland's EXISTING debt is currently being traded at its real value. Ireland's expected default is already built into the yield. Markets are not that difficult to understand once you exclude silly notions like fairness, legality or morality.

    For some time now the best game in town has been to buy overleveraged bonds at deep discounts and then insist on getting paid their original issuance value. What has gone wrong is that the game has been so successful that it threatens to suck the lifeblood out of the world's economies.

  5. Funniest thing I've read in months:

    "Think of the Bond Market as a tank of exceptionally greedy gold fish. They are 'short' memory and 'long' greed. They swim up and down looking only forward and forget what happened five minutes ago. Goldfish Sachs."

    Ha! That is, in two words, solid gold.

  6. Golem

    Looks like a step in the right direction, this will certainly be very worrying for a lot of big fish in Ireland.

    Just going off topic, I found this video, which evidently the UK government want to take off youtube, it details the efforts of a group called Lawful Rebellion who have used the principal of common law as outlined by John Harris to arrest a judge for treason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0kI6colfLs&feature=player_detailpage
    This is a link to a page on their website which gives their plans for ending the bail-out & the austerity measures, it's pretty amazing stuff. I don't really know what to make of them, I would welcome anybodys knowledge or opinion of this group.

    http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/content/end-the-bailout

  7. Golem XIV - Thoughts

    Stevie,

    I had a good conversation with one of them. Sincere bloke. Old time activist. Cowboy hat, walking stick and a full tank of pissed-off determination.

    I think it's on the level and as far as I can ascertain they are right. Its teh equivalent of arresting Mugabe on the street. There is a law tah supports it, but some big git in a slick suit still beats the crap out of you for trying it on.

    I'm all for it.

    Thanks for the link to the film.

  8. Re: The Lawful Rebellion video, once it was revealed that the whole episode was to do with local authority proceedings against an individual for non-payment of council tax, it rather descended onto a kind of reactionary, little-England scenario, which lost my sympathy.

    Interesting recourse to archaic laws which may well still be in force, but I would have wished for a more useful cause and target.

  9. MrShigemitsu

    The little England thing was what was worrying me, but I think it will be interesting to see where they go & what success they might have. According to their website they have a big agenda, perhaps they are flexing their muscles & if they are successful they might move onto bigger things. The guy speaking at the end seemed to know the legal end of things & if they get the publicity it might just shine a light on a lot of the things that are wrong & shake more people out of their apathy.

    The English were once at the forefront of the fight for liberty, Magna carta, Watt Tyler, The Levellers, the 1st constitutional monarchy & parliament, The Chartists, John Ruskin & many more, it would be great to revive some of that fire & spirit which did make the world a better place. These steps of course, all happened at a huge cost & I don't think we need another Oliver Cromwell or a rise in English or British nationalism, but at least there are more signs that ordinary ( so called ) people are starting to put up a fight.

  10. A bit of amusing "default" trivia.

    I read somewhere that during the past 200 years, Greece has defaulted on average every 5 years.

    And they're still around.

    But the most recent, successful and clean default? Iceland.

    Default always works best when a society is cohesive, realistic and hard working in the country defaulting.

  11. Fungus FitzJuggler III

    If TPTB mishandle this and so far, they are on that exact course, rebellion will by no means be "off topic". This thing has legs and will last for decades.

    Review if you dare, the events of the French Revolution. We are headed that way as food shortages and revolts around the world stack up with climate disruption, nuke discharges and 1M displaced persons from Japan. They will only want to come in small number to Ireland, but their government may pay for a few thousand long term tourists? Australia is already considering this.

    These are interesting times.

    As said before, default now is actually premature as the EZ and UK are willing to paper over the problems and so long as they do so, turning over old debt for new and rolling up interest due, we are toeing the Euro line.

    When they can no longer do that, we may default. We need the time to reorganize!

  12. It's an interesting point that bond markets would lend again at some future point after a default.

    Another interesting one for me is why would you need them to.

    Instead of issuing debt, the government could issue money. That appears to be ruled out, yet it's a convention rather than a law that we must issue debt.

    Since governments started listening to Friedman et al, the idea that "printing money" causes hyperinflation seems to have become accepted as a truth which needs no demonstration. But where there is unused capacity in the economy, it is quite feasible to issue money rather than bonds, and achieve the same ends but without handing a perpetual free lunch to parasites.

    Heresy I know, but there, I've said it. May the lord strike me down

  13. Peter. Thanks for saying it. And may the lord reward you not punish you for saying the truth.

    The truth is that modern governments have ceded seigniorage to the banks. It is like ceding control of the courts to the lawyers.

    Maybe we have already done that too.

  14. Fungus FitzJuggler III

    Well said, Peter!

    I now believe that we have reached a time where scarcity is being manufactured via the credit system?

    Malinvestments waste resources.

    Housing in Ireland is now in excess of supply, but NAMA is there to ensure that there are still homeless people and those who take welfare form the state to live in crapulous B&B premises where crime is rife.

    Modern Ireland!

  15. Writing from Ireland.
    There was a truly breath taking moment on last Thursday’s Tonight with Vincent Browne http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=tonightwithvincentbrowne where Richard Bruton confronted by a panel who all agreed we’re heading for disaster in 2012/2013 (when the money will run out) and he didn’t deny it, he merely shrugged, “well what can you do?”

    I’ve clicked on the link above supplied by Golem at the end of his piece and didn’t find much of use other than a paper or two which I will try and read ASAP. As for campaigns in Ireland on debt audit, at the start of March a number of prominent figures in Ireland called http://www.afri.ie/campaigners-call-for-debt-audit all it does is bring you to that site’s homepage now.

    It seems our anger in this country has been neutered by a number of factors, a sense of national shame over the gluttony and selfishness of the Celtic tiger years, a culture of emigration meaning the young never really saw themselves as have an investment in this countries future and thus left it’s running to the heirs of the civil war parties, a deeply help culture of conservatism and subservience to Church and state, and most of all the fact that we never had the shock of having our ATMs run empty that they did in Iceland. It seems now as a nation we’re like some character in the Sopranos who've only gradually realised this boat trip might not end the way we had hoped for and all we can do is meekly beg “not in the face, okay?”

    I sincerely want to do something anything, but I’ve only so much time to give. Personally I’m giving up nearly all my time to setting up a business that maybe just maybe might save my future and my family’s before the jaws finally snap shut two years down the line.

    With regards Peter’s suggestion, I’ve read/watched a bit on the subject but it’s not something you see given any mention in the Irish media, instead we get market analysts and economists bleating about the injustice of it all without ever offering solutions or alternatives from outside the current debt finance/fractional reserve system, which is the only reality they’re willing to deal with.

    We’ve reached a stage where we can be our own masters, where we can (maybe) understand the very fabric of the universe and our bodies, were we no longer live in an era of war and disease (at least in the West), and still we lay in the thrall and mercy of this idea of money, this abstract concept which says these coins and paper will buy tomorrow’s dinner and that this person is worth more than you, so tough, a concept which rules and determines the lives and happiness of effectively every human on the planet.

    But what can I do about it? I’m a fine art graduate who has only a basic grasp of and it’ll take years before I could understand it all enough to be able to say something sensibly or useful about it, and I honestly can’t afford to give up more time than I already do.

    I don’t want to riot and hurt people, though 500 million years of evolution, sex and survival makes me want to fight just like any other animal, I’m desperate to in fact, but fight what; a multi-headed hydra I’ve no idea how to kill? I can give out about the people of my country doing nothing, but here I am in front of my glowing computer screen, clenching my fists and gritting my teeth, typing words into the Internet for strangers I’ll likely never meet.

    Just like everyone else it seems, I do nothing and let evil happen.

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