So the latest news on the Swedish ship The Estelle which was sailing towards Gaza is that it has been boarded by Israeli military in international waters.
The ship has been boarded, seized and the civilians on board have been arrested/detained/captured (depending on how you view the situation). The Ships’ communications (web connection) have been cut as of an hour or so ago. Till then communication was possible. The satellite phone they have with them is also no longer working. I tried a few minutes ago.
What I want to know is why does the Israeli government think it should have the power to decide who and what can enter another people’s land? It is one thing if the Israeli intelligence services had reason to suspect a ship was carrying weapons – I can understand they would feel this was reason to stop it. But the Estelle is from Sweden on a peace and protest mission. And the crew has made it clear it was more than happy for the UN or any national authority in any of the ports the ship has visited, to inspect every inch of the ship and its cargo. So hardly a smuggling escapade.
Those on board the ship are not armed insurgents nor former special services soldiers or spies. One of those on board is former parliamentarian from Canada Jim Manly. Also there is someone the Israeli government and military dislike intensely, Yonatan Shapira. Mr Shapira is particularly disliked because he was one of the very first of its pilots to say he would no longer bomb targets he regarded as civilian. For a former pilot to take this stand is shocking for many Israeli’s and regarded as damaging by the military.
Israeli pilots in particular have tended to be portrayed as national heros and therefore their public and unquestioning loyalty to the military policy is seen as important. Questioning is not something Israel’s government seems to accept from anyone, not even their own.
The boarding of the Estelle comes just a few days after an Israeli human rights group called Gisha finally, after a long battle won a court decision to force Israel’s Ministry of Defence to release a previously withheld study called Food Consumption in the Gaza Strip – The Red Lines. The study was done to find out what were the minimum food requirements (amounts and types) that Israel could force upon the people of the Gaza strip before they became malnourished. That such a study even exists is an indictment.
This action of boarding the Estelle and those before it do not strike me as a blockade of arms shipments.They look to me much more like patrolling a prison. The guards have absolute power to decide who enters, who does not, what is restricted for the inmates and what they are allowed. The guards decide what punishments are enforceed for breaches of the rules and there is NO, absoutely no right of appeal for those incarcerated. Is Gaza a land where free people live or has it been turned in to the world’s first prison city where the undesirable underclass live and breed and die but must do so behind walls and barbed wire without rights and under the control of the uber people? European Jews once suffered and lived like this in the Nazi enforced Ghetto in Warsaw. Then, ‘decent’ Germans stood by and said nothing while it happened. Today decent Israelis are doing the same. Only a few ever have the courage to stand against what is wrong but powerful.
The Bellus Israeli continues – amid gathering rumours about a joint US. Israeli strike on Iran. I spoke this week to a military consultant who said he felt a strike was more likely than ever to be timed for just after the US elections. As is the way with military consultant people I have no way of judging what this person claimed.
Israels treatment of Gaza is a Disgrace,chapters of Israeli US illegal acts are routinely edited from the MSM and hence public conciousness.
That Israel is a Fascist State is in little doubt, the Irony of this can not be lost on many with the famous Jewish sense of humour.
I personally boycott Israeli goods in supermarkets, its a shame the US public are not more tuned into what is done in their name.
The decent Israelis and diaspora Jews who are probably in the majority are afraid to speak up for reasons similar to those that kept most decent Germans quiet in the 1930s.
I do not doubt that most Israelis are thoroughly decent folk . In common with other states what is done by Government is not representative in any way of the true wishes and feelings of the populations. This feeling is one I also have for most Americans as well, also Britons and anywhere else really. My own life experiences of people of all faiths Creeds and cultural backgrounds is that I have always had much more in common with all of them than differences and the differences are usually a cause for mutual amusement and fascination not discomfort..
Well said. Same for me.
Individually, that is my general experience too. But it may involve ignoring some very unsettling opinions prevalent in the society at large. Israeli opinion not excluded. http://www.3quarksdaily.com/.a/6a00d8341c562c53ef017c32c403f5970b-popup
The Haaretz article is paywalled, so 3Qd has more.
First I would like to thank Mr Malone and all of you contributors for your excellent
contributions. I haven’t posted before because I feel I’m out of my depth but thought
the following links might be of interest.
I read a few years back
http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-and-natural-gas-the-israeli-invasion-and-gaza-s-offshore-gas-fields/11680
and more recently this
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article36956.html
In the USA we’re aware that our excursions into the Middle East are mainly for profit
but I can see for Israel it might be that and future energy security. And like the gentleman
said before me the average citizen is not a part of it.
Love the Blog, click n it several time a day to view the contributions.
Best
G Lemieux,
Welcome. I had heard of the off-shore gas fields but not seen Chussodovsky’s article. It’s a belter. Thank you.
As for being out of your depth. I suspect we all are.
Thank you for a wealth of information and knowledge, your writing on finance has been oustanding — just wanted to add some context:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Wall_%28essay%29
I am currently a few chapters into “A High Price: The Triumphs and Failures of Israeli Counterterrorism” and it has been exceptionally thorough and interesting stuff. The basic logic here is that ANY breach of their security perimeter, even if it’s a raft with the Dalai Lama on it, is a weakening of their defenses. “Zero tolerance” is a phrase that has been cheapened by over-use in the English-speaking world, but IDF truly applies it.
‘“Zero tolerance” is a phrase that has been cheapened by over-use in the English-speaking world, but IDF truly applies it.’
Behind that phrase lies another which is at the heart of Israeli intransigence – ‘never again’. While that is understandable it cannot be permitted to licence for others what it is trying to avoid for Jews. The longer this goes on the more chance of what is politely called a ‘recrudescence’
‘What I want to know is why does the Israeli government think it should have the power to decide who and what can enter another people’s land?’
Like Wall St, it does things because it can. Or rather because it knows it won’t be held to account. Laws are for other people, or other countries.
I’m guessing that the israelis are getting ready to go into south Lebanon again. The last time there was a big car bomb in Lebanon the Israelis invaded a few months after, but we found out that the invasion was planned before the bomb went off and that part of the planning assumed that Syrian forces would not be in Lebanon(the Syrian forces had to withdraw filling protests in the wake of the bombing) seems to me that Israel is clearing the decks for a combined Iran/hezbollah strike
Yes, I’d be sure that recent bombing in Lebanon was the work of Mossad to further destabilise it & Syria as well, as you say to futher isolate Iran. No one else stands to benefit from it.
Gaza is one of the biggest prisons the world has seen. a sort of giant replica of the warsaw ghetto. maybe it is with nations as with individuals. the badly abused child can grow up to become an abuser…
That is a very good way of putting it.
A little left-field musical interlude for you. The English rock band Marillion recently released a song called Gaza on their latest album. In interviews, the lead singer Steve Hogarth spoke of how, in his research for the lyrics, he had to engage in secret communications through internet chat with inhabitants of the Gaza strip to find out what daily life was like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFcQXIog1Uo.
I reproduce the lyrics here….
When I was young it all seemed like a game
Living here brought no sense of shame
But now I’m older I’ve come to understand
Once we had houses
Once we had land
They rained down bullets on us as our homes collapsed
We lay beneath the rubble terrified
Hoping.. Dare we dream?
We gave up waiting
For us, to dream is still a dream
When I woke up, the house was broken stones
We suddenly had nothing
And nothing’s changed
We live, eight people, in this overcrowded heat
Factory-farmed animals living in our own sweat
Living like this is all my baby brother ever knew
The world does nothing. What can we do?
We will kick the ball
We will skip the rope
We will play outside. Be careful
We will paint and draw. We will say our prayers
Outside the pitiless sun bleaches the broken streets
The darkness drops in the evening like an iron door
The men play cards under torchlight
The women stay inside
Hell can erupt in a moment day or night
You ask for trouble if you stray too close to the wall
My father died ..feeding the birds
Mum goes in front of me to check for soldiers
For every hot-head stone ten come back
For every hot-head stone a hundred come back
For every rocket fired the drones come back
For thirteen years the roads have all been closed
We’re isolated. We’re denied medical supplies
Fuel and work are scarce. They build houses on our farms
The old men weep. The young men take up arms.
We’re packed like chickens in this town of block cement
I get headache from the diesel. When it rains, the sewers too
I had no idea what martyrdom meant
Until my older brother.. my older brother
I’m sorry. I can’t continue.
You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind, it is said
When people know they have no future
Can we blame them if we cannot tame them?
And when their hopes and dreams are broken
And they feel they might as well be dead
As they go, will we forgive them
If they take us with them?
Stay close
Stay home
Stay calm
Have faith
With the love of our family we can rise above anything
Someday surely someone must help us
With the love of our family we can rise above anything
Someday surely someone must help us
Even now we will go to school
Even now we will dream to dream
Someday surely someone must help us
Nothing’s ever simple – that’s for sure
There are grieving mothers on both sides of the wire
And everyone deserves a chance to feel the future just might be bright
But any way you look at it – whichever point of view
For us to have to live like this
It just aint right
It just aint right
It just aint right
We all want peace and freedom that’s for sure
But peace won’t come from standing on our necks
Everyone deserves a chance to feel the future just might be bright
But any way you look at this – whichever point of view
For us to have to live like this
It just aint right
It just aint right
It just aint right
It’s like a nightmare rose up slouching towards Bethlehem
Like a nightmare rose up from this small strip of land
Slouching towards Bethlehem
It’s like a nightmare rose up from this small strip of land
Slouching towards Bethlehem
Stay close
Stay home
Have faith
I can’t know what twist of history did this to me
It’s like a nightmare
With the love of our family
We can rise above anything
Some day surely someone must help us…
Aaaah… I/P. One of the great historical/political dividers of my lifetime!
I myself have no direct relationship with either side in this dispute, and I am always depressed at how quickly and reflexively both sides marshal and deploy their well-rehearsed defences.
An early consensus seems to have been reached in the piece and in the comments thus far that Israel is the de-facto villain here. I would only ask that readers consider the possibility that the case is neither black nor white, but the usual muddled mass of shading and obfuscation. I’m afraid I see guilt on both sides here.
And this is the essence of the conflict. Two peoples have become deeply entwined in tragic histories. They have more in common than is often admitted and that is why I repeat the slogan whenever I can that to be pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli at the same time is not a contradiction. It is a necessity if we are to untangle these enmeshed tragedies.
http://fatmanonakeyboard.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/thirteen.html
(I’m not convinced by Chussodovsky. Tempted, but not convinced… as I am with, say, Derren Brown.
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.
– Tutu
Justice has long been represented by a set of scales or balances, with the implication that proportionality is a key factor.
If the scales are tilted overwhelmingly in the favour of one side, the way you achieve balance is by putting more weight on the other side, no?
Couldn’t have said it better.
Jim.
I agree with you to the extent that it is the lunatics on both sides that are the reason for the existence of this asylum, with the majority as usual suffering most of the consequences of their extremism. An opinion on the foundation of Israel I once read, written by someone who I cannot remember, declared that Israel was for the most part set up by holocaust survivors. These people tended to be very tough individuals with a hawkish mentality, if true, they certainly sowed seeds then that the world has been reaping ever since.
Einstein soon became very concerned in regard to the mentality of the Israeli leadership & the atrocities that were soon perpetrated against the Palestinians – here is a letter that was sent to the New York Times in 1948, he warns of fascism.
http://rense.com/general59/ein.htm
As for some of the lunatics on the Palestinian side, all I can say is that it is an obvious outcome of Israeli policy for the majority of the countries history. In Northern Ireland the Provisional IRA only really came into existence because of events like Bloody Sunday & what would now be called ethnic cleansing, I have it on good authority that on a certain Monday there were very long queues of young men enlisting & that the Catholic community were also then ready to provide the backing that a guerilla, or what would now be called an insurgent force, needs to survive.
We will never be free from the ripples caused in particular by, large historic events.
off topic, but revolutionary news in the MSM today. Maybe a smidgeon of progress in the reform of our money system.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/9623863/IMFs-epic-plan-to-conjure-away-debt-and-dethrone-bankers.html
Daniel
Interesting find that one. Here is the IMF paper in full, which I’ll have to diagest over the next few days:
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf
This could mark a watershed moment for Money Reform debate, as previously many in the mainstream would simply bark “crank” and “crackpots” at anyone even remotely suggesting that there is a findamental problem with modern money creation.
Just look at the way Krugman tried to debunk Steve Keen.
Frederick Soddy has suffered this ignominy for nearly 90 years.
Hey Hawkeye,
I’m giong to have a look as well. B how would you feel about maybe writing something for us on your thoughts on the IMF paper?
Don’t worry if you don’t have time. Just thought I’d ask out loud what I am sure others are thinking.
Hi David
It has been a while since I last pounded my keyboard, hasn’t it !!
Looks like this is probably a good week for me to find the time to put something down, as I’ve been putting this thorny topic off for a while.
Thanks for the invitation, and I’ll send a draft over soon.
-Hawkeye
Hi Hawkeye,
Perhaps this might help too.
http://netarchy.com/2012/06/29/my-intellectual-journey-with-usury/
I think the question of usury and debt as money and the social evils we see around us are closely related.
Thats my reading sorted out for this evening, The remainder of Flights of the Mind, Biog of Leanardo Da Vinci will have to wait.
´A man is poor when he s’desires many things´
a note from Leanardo’s notebooks.
In essence this is what Positive Money are campaigning for. Debt free issuance spending by gov sector – roughly Abba Lerner’s ‘functional finance’, in common with MMT – and full reserve banking. I think Prof Yamaguchi’s modelling work is mentioned in the paper as well.
I agree. It’s good to see something of this nature getting (reasonably considered) mainstream attention. A E-P has also mentioned (possible Mervyn King replacement) Adair Turner’s recent ‘hinted’ proposals too.
The proposal uses MMT consistent (& correct) understanding of the monetary system.
MMT, broadly described, has concerns that full reserve would be very difficult to implement & if it was, might (as some critiques of the proposal suggest) make credit availability difficult enough to cause problems in the real economy. Rather they prefer a fractional reserve system but with much (much!) more tightly limited type & range of activity. Former US regulator & MMT supporter Bill Black agrees with this position.
MMT also adds its (only) specific fiscal proposal – the Job Guarantee/ Employment/ price satabilising buffer stock. (As opposed to the increasingly precarious, wasteful unemployed version at present.)
The problem with limited fractional reserve lending is that it might start off limited as it did post WWII but the bankers will endeavor to move the goalposts until they are back in control. But I see no problem with leading the banks central bank money so the banks can reloan it, could even have different interest rates for different types of banking. For example it might be wise to offer banks lending to business more favourable rates than those lending to housebuyers. The rates can even be negative
If we could get the monetary & fiscal operation common to PM, MMT & this IMF paper, I’d be quite happy to try some kind of full reserve system & see how it goes.
Bear in mind tho’, that it would take some time considerable time & effort to get there from where we are now. I suspect getting back to a stiff regulation & control regime, politics aside would be easier & quicker to implement.
I think Guaranteed income is far more realistic than a Job Guarantee Mike, politically it takes a bit more explaining ( something for nothing being the common objection).
Have you a position on Guaranteed income, I read Toby Russels Blog with enthusiasm regularly.
http://thdrussell.blogspot.se/2012/05/financing-guaranteed-income.html
For sure GI has some good features, but from a macro automatic stabiliser & price satibility point of view (across economic cycles), the JG has some advantages I think.
I like the idea also of the charity/community sector getting some very useful labour too with the JG. Socially very positive – for both individuals & community.
And the ‘something for nothing’ argument is a very powerful one for opponents to GI to make. Surely very difficult politically.
I think JG has the balance & would be worlds better than what we have now.
Not suprisingly Mike, I have deep objections to any compulsion coupled with a Job Guarantee scheme. I listened to Prof Daniel Robinsonss lecture on Leviathan again this morning and the acceopted establishment wisdom(tongue in cheek) regarding human nature
leaves me feeling pretty perplexed.
Is man Selfish or is man Social, where coercion and manipulation are absent I would say mostly Social, free association and the ability to pursue fulfilment and creativity what needs to get done in communities will get done and surpas the Hobbesian predictions in inverse proportions to the predicted chaos. The King is dead long live the King should be replaced with direct democracy absent elites and all they entail.
Roger, the JG is strictly non-compulsory – entirely optional for the unemployed. This is clear in the MMT source material.
A straw man objection to anything can be concocted by suggesting corrupted authorities can alter the vital terms of any proposal at a future date.
For example, a Guaranteed Income, which may well lead to the abolishment of any other unemployment supports in any case, could lead to a Government scaling back GI to a below poverty level at any time for spurious ideological reasons. Do I think it’s a reasonable argument against it? No.
What concerns me more is the lack of automatic stabiliser function in the labour market. So counter cyclical policy becomes discretionary – positively inviting the kind of ideological economic vandalism now pertaining.
The question of optimal democracy is an important one & sorely needs considering in the light of all the failures past & ongoing. But it’s a whole topic in its own right
The latest –
The three Israeli citizenswho were on board the ship – Reut Mor, Elik Elhanan and Yonatan Shapira – were put on trial in a preparatory hearing during Sunday morning. The judge decided against their request that the trial should be made public. Thus this will be one of those oh so fair secret trials,
They are accused of:
– aiding the enemy knowingly,
– incitement to rebellion,
– and acting in contravention, breaching of a legal order provision, i.e. the closure of Gaza.
Their detention has therefore been extended by 48 hours within which a new hearing will be held.
The same accusations have now been directed against the Swedish citizen Dror Feiler.
A couple of notes of explanantion. Mr Feiler is NOT an Israeli citizen. He used to be, 40 years ago. But became a Swedish citizen and renounced his Israeli citizenship. Then Israeli government obvioulsy feels IT should have the power to TELL people what their citizenship is.
Think for a moment about the line “…breaching of a legal order provision. i.e. the closure of Gaza.” THIS is why the Israeli government is so adamantly opposed to Palastine being recognized as a soverign nation and the Palestinians as having any nationhood. If they did have, if the UN did recognize them, then Israel could not decide to ‘close’ Gaza bylegal order. One nation cannot close another by ‘legal order’.
This is one of the main reasons why the Israeli government and the US are so frightened of Palestiain attempts to have their sovereignty recognized at the UN GS and the Security Council.
“This is one of the main reasons why the Israeli government and the US are so frightened of Palestiain attempts to have their sovereignty recognized at the UN GS and the Security Council.”
One other reason is that the Israel’s “soverignty” was never ratified either. Israel unilaterally declared it’s own existence. IF the Palestinians approach the subject of “nationality” then the Israeli version of the same has to be clarified.
Quote from “Alison Weir
CounterPunch
Tue, 11 Oct 2011 ” (Sorry, no link as taken from files)
“To better understand the Palestinian bid for membership in the United Nations, it is important to understand the original 1947 UN action on Israel-Palestine.
The common representation of Israel’s birth is that the UN created Israel, that the world was in favor of this move, and that the US governmental establishment supported it. All these assumptions are demonstrably incorrect.
In reality, while the UN General Assembly recommended the creation of a Jewish state in part of Palestine, that recommendation was non-binding and never implemented by the Security Council.
Second, the General Assembly passed that recommendation only after Israel proponents threatened and bribed numerous countries in order to gain a required two-thirds of votes.
Third, the US administration supported the recommendation out of domestic electoral considerations, and took this position over the strenuous objections of the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.”
“On Nov 29, 1947 the partition resolution, 181, passed. While this resolution is frequently cited, it was of limited (if any) legal impact. General Assembly resolutions, unlike Security Council resolutions, are not binding on member states. For this reason, the resolution requested that “[t]he Security Council take the necessary measures as provided for in the plan for its implementation,” which the Security Council never did. Legally, the General Assembly Resolution was a “recommendation” and did not create any states.”
I take that to mean that the only LEGAL State is – Palestine (Mandate?), ie. that which preceeded 1947.
Netanyahu also adding salt to wounds in regard to settlements in Jerusalem. Noam Chomsky visits Gaza, it will interesting to read his reaction :
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gpH4bMYtiMCRf2QMFUP7OsC1snwg?docId=61fd36d4cf0744759fd1b0a54d158cda
Own personal opinion is that Israel (in its’ current guise) is a deeply repressive fascistic regime and occupies territories way beyond its’ borders.
It is propped up by numerous rich sponsors in the Northern world from governments to individuals and who claim there is an ancient heritage which allows Israel the right to exist.
After all it is all written down in the the hybrid collections of stories, myths, anecdotes outlined in the Torah as the word of a non existent sky resident
What I find objectionable is that any criticism aimed at the state of Israel is denounced immediately by their apologists (Jew and Gentile) as being ‘no better than Hitler’ in most simplistic of terms.
Dear Author,
I have a huge respect for your work, efforts, investigative spirit and pursuit of truth. But I think you’ve made an intentional mistake. Please be aware that there never was anything like “Polish Ghetto”. What this may suggest is that a ghetto was run by my countrymen – Poles or that Poles were involved as the oppressors. And this should never be left for doubt.
The correct therm would be “Nazi Ghetto in Poland” (although there were ghettos all over Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ghettos_in_Europe)
Please clarify this in your text.
You are quite right. I had not paid attention. I have amended the text and offer you my unreserved apologies.
dear Polish reader i am the one that incorrectly named the ghetto in warsaw. i do apologise to anyone offended by my unintentional mistake. i do agree that the correct term should have read ‘Nazi Ghetto in Poland.’
Noam Chomsky on his visit to what seems to be a kind of Palestinian version of the Warsaw ghetto.
http://chomsky.info/articles/20121104.htm
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/gaza-is-plunged-into-war-again
“Is Gaza a land where free people live or has it been turned in to the world’s first prison city where the undesirable underclass live and breed and die but must do so behind walls and barbed wire without rights and under the control of the uber people? European Jews once suffered and lived like this in the Nazi enforced Ghetto in Warsaw. Then, ‘decent’ Germans stood by and said nothing while it happened. Today decent Israelis are doing the same.”
Hmmm…really? Whatever your opinions are on the Israel-Palestine conflict, you REALLY don’t know what you’re talking about when you make a comparison with the Warsaw Ghetto (btw FYI Warsaw is in Poland; not Germany). It’s not only totally ignorant, not to mention outrageously ridiculous, to pluck a largely unrelated historical tragedy out of the air and irrationally compare it to present-day issues in the middle east but it falls nothing short of holocaust revisionism.
Hi feministbageleater. Thought you might like to read this article regarding folk standing by and turning the other cheek.
http://oestrem.com/thingstwice/2013/09/this-machine/
other comaparisons can be found on my own blog here regarding the new Neo Liberal fascism, embraced by Israels Governement.
http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/2012/11/the-narcissism-of-small-differences-in.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7168803/Adorno-Freudian-Theory-and-the-Pattern-of-Fascist-Propaganda#
Freudian Theory and pattern of Fascist Propaganda.
This is the ultimate root of the otherwise enigmatic
personalization
of fascist
propaganda, its incessant plugging of names and supposedly great men, instead of
discussing objective causes. The formation of the imagery of an omnipotent and unbridled
father figure, by far transcending the individual father and therewith apt to be enlarged into
a »group ego,« is the only way to promulgate the »passive-masochistic attitude … to whom
one’s will has to be surrendered,« an attitude required of the fascist follower the more his
political behaviour becomes irreconcilable with his own rational interests as a private person
as well as those of the group or c
lass
to which he actually belongs.
12
They fail to develop an independent autonomous
conscience and substitute for it an identification with collective authority which is as irrational as Freud
described it, heteronomous, rigidly oppressive, largely alien to the individuals’ own thinking and, therefore,
Just a short paraphrase in case you decide not to have a read, the parallels of Israeli Propaganda and war crimes to those of the Nazi’s are undeniable frankly. It is a question of degree not kind if there is any question at all.
Quine concluded in his “Two Dogmas of Empiricism” as follows:
As an empiricist I continue to think of the conceptual scheme of science as a tool, ultimately, for predicting future experience in the light of past experience. Physical objects are conceptually imported into the situation as convenient intermediaries not by definition in terms of experience, but simply as irreducible posits comparable, epistemologically, to the gods of Homer . . . For my part I do, qua lay physicist, believe in physical objects and not in Homer’s gods; and I consider it a scientific error to believe otherwise. But in point of epistemological footing, the physical objects and the gods differ only in degree and not in kind. Both sorts of entities enter our conceptions only as cultural posits.
applies equally well to Israel and its fascist government and the Nazis of the 30’s and 40’s. Same old shit different day.
Some Klezmer from my band in solidarity with Palestine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8zPumk4dtk