Greek Austerity measures – it couldn’t happen here.

Well here is what the IMF and the EU have wanted – more austerity. And the shape of it is as you would expect from this generation of political maggots.

1)*GREEK PENSION CUT FOR THOSE EARNING MORE THAN EU1,200 A MONTH

1200 Euros a month is 14,400 euros a year. Which is $19 700 or £11 520.

For comparison the poverty line in America for a single person is $11,344 per year, in Europe it’s €11,250. So this cut is designed so that it mainly impoverishes the old age of those near the bottom. No need to raise the retirement age. No one will be able to even dream of retiring. Job done.

2) *GREECE TO REDUCE TAX-FREE THRESHOLD TO EU5,000 FROM EU8,000

So even those earning less than half of the poverty threshold will now be asked to contribute. While NOTHING has been done to catch or even deter the wealthy who avoid and evade paying tax and who when asked pay more threaten to leave and take their money with them to a tax haven.

3) *GREECE TO REDUCE PENSIONS BY 40% FOR THOSE UNDER 55

Not sure if this means for those who retire early or for all those currently aged under 55 and therefore due to retire in 10 or more years.  I suspect it is the former which means it is just adding a bolting to an already locked door. See point 2.

4)*GREECE TO CUT WAGES OF 30,000 STATE WORKERS THIS YEAR

“State Workers” is such a weaselly phrase. Neo-liberals would like it to conjure up an image of a lazy complacent jobs worth who does nothing and demands everything, all at your expense. And of course such people exist. But prejudiced stereotypes aside “State workers” means the people who do the essential work, some of it highly skilled, that keeps society running. Someone has to take your rubbish away or disease would grip our cities. When disease does strike there have to be doctors and nurses to stop us dying. There have to be teachers to educate our children. These are the “State Workers” whose work is to be worth less from now on.

Why do neo-liberals and the right wing in general want such people to be paid less? Is it because the wealthy really think such jobs should be done by the  low paid? Well actually not at all. The same people who make it their life’s ambition to reduce the salaries of anyone who does these jobs for the benefit of ordinary people, go out of their way to pay the people who do the same jobs for them privately, far, far more.

The wealthy pay a great deal for the education of their children. It’s only your children who they think should be educated as cheaply as possible. They also make sure they spend whatever it takes on expensive private health care for themselves because they want good care. Your care however, they begrudge and tell you they won’t help pay for.

But of course cutting “State workers” salaries is only partly about saving tax money so it can be spent on more productive things, like bailing out private banks. There is also a longer game. Salary cuts and pension cuts are necessary for privatization. And nothing is more attractive to the privatizer than an essential service. A job which has to be done is a license to print money. As we have seen in the UK private companies risk almost nothing. They make money in the good years and in the bad, demand subsidies – from the very tax payer who was told the service when it was in the public sector was unaffordable, to keep it running. And if the company just can’t afford it, well bankruptcy protects the owners and sprays all the debts back on to the tax payer.

So salary cuts not only cuts the tax bill and frees money for those all important bail outs, but also prepares the way to transfer services into risk free profits for the people who are best at avoiding taxes – the wealthy.

*GREECE TO CUT PENSIONS OVER EU1,200 BY 20%: STATEMENT

20% of a 100 000 euro pension is leaves the retiree on 80K a year. 20% of 14 400 is 2880 leaving the person on 11520 which by coincidence is just a fraction above the poverty line.  So the person who dedicates their life to nursing ordinary people like you and me, back to health or who educates our children will, upon retiring, be welcomed by a grateful government to live out their vulnerable twilight years in poverty.

Ask yourself again about argument which says we can’t let the banks go down because it would damage our pensions.

Think it couldn’t happen in your country? There are now more than 46 million American living below the American poverty line. While the top 10% is richer than it has ever been. And 13 of Americas top corporations are urging tax cuts for .. yes you guessed it – for themselves.The banks are urging the government to print more money and give it to – yes you guessed it – to them. While the Republican party and its half sister the Democratic party is working on cutting public services by several trillions.

In the UK the coalition is now saying austerity could be far longer than they thought and cuts deeper.

Still think it couldn’t happen to you? If you go back to an article I wrote back in December 2010 called “The cost of the bail out – just your democracy” you’ll see that every aspect of the Greek austerity measures was laid out in a document by the IMF containing its  free-market agenda for Europe. The same measures are there in the UK government’s measures as well. Conspiracy? Not at all. Just a free-market consensus amoung a political elite which is determined to follow the Free market vision no matter how may times it fails, no matter the cost, no matter what poverty it inflicts as long as it does so only on those the poor and never upon the rich.

 

55 thoughts on “Greek Austerity measures – it couldn’t happen here.”

  1. QUICK SYSTEM POST

    My comments only go to bottom of thread if I REPLY to the last poster.

    Otherwise they cluster upstream, somehow.

    frog2

      1. bob– oldest first, no choice.

        We had a problem the last two days.

        When using the permanent box at the bottom, posts zoomed back a day and nested somewhere upstream. ( Maybe it happens after a change of date, dunno;)

        I experimented both doing that, and just ‘replying’ to the very last poster , which did the trick . frog2

  2. More lunacy from the IMF and their Freidmanite neo con paymasters. I wouldn’t mind if this crap actually workrd but the evidence, the world over shows it doesn’t. Under the current system an economy must grow or the debt will devour it. These policies just shrink the economy and cause misery.

    In the meantime the Grauniad has got radical and started a blog so we can see what nice concerned citizens they are. If you voice an angry opinion you are called a RANTER with behaviour issues. Not that I’m allowed to post there any more. (bill40, speciality; bitterness)

    These measures are useless,people will turn violent and Greece will still fail. But we can read self penned portraits of our lovely bankers. You couldn’t make this sh1t up.

  3. Sorry I don’t think what we have is a free market-its effectively a plutocracy.

    The difficulty is that our pols won’t do anything about it because they are part of the problem and benefit by it.

    The point of capitalism was supposed to be that the people who take the risk get an enhanced (not obscene) reward. The answer would be for the investors to carry the downside and not just receive the upside.

    The banks should be allowed to go down with the shareholders and bondholders taking the loss.

  4. For some reason I’m really angry today, but still not as angry as you.

    Revolution is the free market response to excessive inequality. All of history teaches US that. These idiots don’t even understand what the free market they love so much is.

  5. Sorry guys, this is not a free market, hasn’t been for a long time. Yes, too much of modern finance is akin to plutocracy- heads I win, tails taxpayer loses. Letting the banks, GM, etc. go under is what the tea party protests were originally about before the movement was co-opted by the neocon/religious right contingent and the Democrats went along willingly. The fact is, for too long debt has fueled nominal nominal growth, some of it we now know to be false. Rather than go through the difficult process of writing it down, taking losses and starting over we instead decided to perpetuate a broken system by bailing out the banks. The fact is, a great reset would entail a nominal contraction in the economy and further damaged to the government sector and the pensions they guarantee (who would no doubt lose on some of their bank/insurance investments). The financial sector is too large and the government sector has made exorbitant promises that can’t be fulfilled (welfare and warfare), deals that must now be renegotiated. It is not one or the other with respect to the monetary system and government- they go hand in hand in leeching off the real productive economy.

  6. Sorry, Golem – you lost me. How is this a free market conspiracy?

    The banks who created the ridiculous debt were all licensed by the state. The state has chosen not to regulate these crooks or to cancel those licences. The democracy is effectively directed by a politburo in Threadneedle St, authorised by the state.

    I see this as a painful reversion to the mean: the state cannot keep growing its debt beyond the ability of its citizens to pay the bills. The state has to cut back. The real question is who is a citizen, who must pay?

    Get rid of non-dom status in the UK. Cut out income tax. Rebase benefits so work pays. Tax property. Build houses to get construction workers and working families back in the system. Say no to Asian slave labour. And finish the investment banks.

    1. sctove.

      Golem has often written about regulatory capture and asked who exactly works for who. It is clear that democracy has been captured also because there is no political party that offers an alternative anywhere in the developed west.

      The “free” marketeers have completly dominated for decades and the banks given everything they want beyond their wildest dreams. So who is to blame when it all goes tits up?

      Us. Greedy workers,benefit cheats, unions, gypos, immigrants, poor countries, poor people, single parents, socialists, public sector workers……

      Anybody except the damn fools that actually caused it.

  7. Yossarian,

    I agree its not a ‘free market’. It is as you say a rigged one. We can argue about whether there can be any really free market but still agree that this one is almost totally rigged.

    shtove,

    Sorry I was obvioulsy not clear. I don’t think this is a conspiracy at all. It is simply a consensus – total Intellectual capture.

    1. I don’t understand what intellectual capture means, but I guess you assume the state can be pure.

      The state drains the individual of authority. It aggregates power. Any perversion is possible. There is no individual judgment, no feeling or sensitivity or conscience.

      We’ve had that ideology before. We’re getting it again. Those for the people are the enemy, because they’re not for the person, for choice.

      1. Shtove – the State is by no means monolithic, the Dept of Education and the Health Service have very different interests to the Treasury. Watch David Harvey on this.

        I fear we are veering into ideologocial argument. You seem to fear the return of the monolithic ‘Socialist’ state. The whole point of Neoliberalism is that it uses the State to pursue its agenda of ‘free markets’. Neoliberalism doesn’t like democracy because it sees it as an impediment to ‘efficient markets’. The colour of your money is what counts in their system – your equal vote is unfair according to that doctrine. Neoliberals like a strong State to maintain markets – and that is where it begins to look more like Neoconservatism. And conservatives never liked democracy in the first place.

        Thatcher talked a great deal about getting the state off people’s backs yet she centralised the state to a greater degree than ever before. Blair followed suit packing bureaucrats into the health service to monitor all the central targets. At the time it looked like heavy state socialism but it was in fact a continuation of Thatcher’s centralisation process.

        There are other options than rigged free markets and state capitalism…

      1. tksvm* — as we used to telex when broking eurodeposits and FX to remote parts of the world such as the ME and Moscow . (*thanks very much)

        Both of those actually did come from others here, so they’re not ‘mine’ .

        Part6 of the 1994 youtube is brilliantly prescient on the dangers of derivatives etc.

        bifn frog2

  8. I think we are all going to be seeing more of this kind of thing, once we have been reduced to the right level of desperation. It reminds me of the people who started constructing the Hoover dam in 1936, 96 died, mainly from heat exhaustion. This isn’t as extreme but talk about a sweatshop, in the USA, in this day & age, run by Amazon. Is part of the neoliberal plan about competing with China ?

    http://www.mcall.com/news/local/mc-allentown-amazon-complaints-20110917,0,7937001,full.story

  9. backwardsevolution

    An article entitled “Monopoly Money and the International Banking Cartel”: (Part 1)

    “Like any corporate institution, banks drive earnings per share (EPS) by expanding and leveraging their balance sheets, which for banks means putting everything else in more debt. So these cartel banks work to expand their territorial control beyond their national borders to put other populations in debt. This is a mathematical requirement of exponential growth enforced by the private capital system. The eventual end state of this dynamic is one integrated, global banking empire. It’s only a matter of time before their collective balance sheets (plus the large Chinese banks now that the cartel is colluding with them) control the rest of the world if people don’t awaken and choose to put a stop to it.”

    http://csper.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/monopoly-money-and-the-international-banking-cartel/

  10. backwardsevolution

    (Part 2) – “Global Empire and the International Banking Cartel”:

    “The article might have implied those 18 dealer banks have ultimate power. Not at all. The key word in the above paragraphs is “operationally.” The dealers operate within a larger framework. They do not strategically rule over the framework itself. The ultimate rulers are the most senior private capital pools in the world who use the dealers as capital laundering machines and who create their desired framework through the central banks, IMF, BIS, and political institutions like the European Union and G20.”

    http://csper.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/global-empire-and-the-international-banking-cartel-part-2/

    As someone in the “Comments” section said:

    “Your point about the operational function of the visible or public institutions is spot on. Banking and investment vehicles like Goldman Sachs are economic management agencies – intermediaries. The real power is invisible. The preeminent merchants learned a long time ago that a visible ruler is a vulnerable ruler; so they rule by proxy through multiple intermediary companies and agencies.”

  11. I hope we are not going to get into the sterile debate about the inherent evil of the “State” which so bedevils American thinking. A well run State is a good thing…a badly run one is a disaster. The biggest problem is the kind of Capture that Golem is talking about.
    Like how the SEC in America was captured by the Wall Street elite http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes

    Or the utter mess the PFI scheme for funding hospitals and rail services, so beloved of Brown is now in…a nasty little stitch up between the State and Private companies.

    The whole key to this unfolding trainwreck is the way the State and corrupt Private interests collude and are in some sense the same thing. Surely this is what we have been learning the past two years and more?

    By the way some excellent graphics on the Euro crisis from De Spiegal
    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-54629.html

    1. Though, of course, all this emphasis on ‘public debt’ – as if it was generated by the public sector – is part of the misinformation exercise.

  12. backwardsevolution

    That was a really good write-up, Golem. Thank you for that! I agree.

    This is a really good video called “Revisiting American History – Financial Empire”. It explains the heirarchy of the financial empire, how the IRS was put in place in order to funnel the money back up to the top of the pyramid (to the owners). It points out that we do not have a free market and we do not live under freedom. The system was set up (although they would never tell us that) to be anything but freedom. The owners are tantamount to feudal lords and the corporations to knights who went out and gathered more territory and wealth. The government is not part of the pyramid, and only serves to keep the financial machine in motion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l37RhdFGVsM&feature=related

  13. David – What do you mean by “it could happen here”? It has been happening in the UK for some time.

    Even the figures you quote – after the austerity cuts – for pensions in Greece and the US compare favourably with the £7k the UK allocates as an ‘living’ pension for a single person.

    Question to ask – If these people are so clever why didn’t they see it fracturing? Or is the fracturing by design and now the wedges are being driven in to increase and speed up the effect?

    And perhaps, most important of all. Either way what do they expect to achieve as a result – a cull of economic separation? A return to tribune states? Untermenchen coded and classified by credit rating?

    And for the sake of reason, is there any result that can be achieved by the present crises, by those who have caused and those who are now handling it, that can legitimately claim to be a solution?

  14. What ever happened to socialism? We have had nothing but neo-liberal thinking (although the current lot are more like fascists) since 1980. My old man (78) has said before that the pendulum would eventually swing back to the left. He also said that there could be another revolution but probably not in his lifetime (then again). Milband’s speech to the TUC this week confirmed my thoughts. Talk of strikes being bad, and the need for modernisation. I work in the public sector and have seen 30 years of modernisation. But its never enough. The role model of the private sector seems to be more, fill your boots with cash and f*ck the customer. Not exactly what I signed up for. So Miliband labour seems to me to be more of the same neo-liberal public school thinking, worshipping the same private sector that led us into a debt fuelled crisis. Austerity and impoverishing your people, historically, leads to uprisings and revolutions. Ravi Batra predicted this as the middle classes become crushed and impoverished. I’m very worried about the way things are heading. There is no mandidate for crushing austerity. But it will come here just as it has in Greece, its only a matter of time, because our aggregate debt is too high to be serviced by the economy. The solutions are there, but they are not neo-liberal and certainly dont fit the broken neo-classical or Keynesian economic theories, which are no longer fit for purpose.

  15. Morning John Souter,

    You are quite right is happening here and has been for some time. I only meant to suggest that it will get more extreme here.

    I think there is a widening divide and those whose policies are widening it, even if we credit them with not ‘wanting’ to create a wider divide – even if we believe this – I thihnk it is clear that they do not feel they can stop the gap widening because they cannot see byond the ideology and policies which have completely captured their imaginations. And so they will persue policies which will widen the gulf between thoe shrinking minority whom the present system serves and the increasing majority whom it destroys.

    That’s if we believe those in charge aren’t actively wanting to impoverish the many. But I do think there are some in positions of power who while they might not admit to actually wanting to impoverish, do acrively want to accumulate more and more power and wealth to themselves.

    The more they have the more they become afraid that others will take it away. They are ina a self sustaining competition with the others in the top 1%. And the misery their greed for power is creating is just not something they chose to bother themselvs with.

    Does that make them blind or evil? I think blindness to the suffering you inflict on others is evil.

    … Sorry I’m rambling. I’ll stop here.

  16. “Sorry I was obvioulsy not clear. I don’t think this is a conspiracy at all. It is simply a consensus – total Intellectual capture.”
    This is a key point. It reminds me of those that once thought the earth was flat. Everyone was of the same opinion, and those that were not were ridiculed, until eventually someone prooved them wrong. I think the people in the majority are beginning to spot the flaws in the thinking. But the polictical parties dont offer any real alternatives. The only way to force change peacefully, is by rejecting the main stream parties at the ballot box. A huge number of small parties and independents would force the main parties to change their thinking. We should also ban party political funding. Some sort of central pot for all donations distributed through a formula, eg, number of seats would make a significant difference.

  17. Blackadder: ‘It’s the same plan that we used last time and the seventeen times before that.’
    Mervyn King: ‘Exactly! And that is what is so brilliant about it! It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we’ve done eighteen times before is the last thing they’ll expect us to do this time!’

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100106436/quantitative-easing-has-demonstrably-failed-the-chancellor-must-forbid-another-bout/

  18. Kit,

    I could actually see Mervyn and Blackadder. It’s perfect. I would actually love to see one more Blackadder set in the Treaury and the banks. What a joyful thought.

    1. Reuters reports that BNP Paribas is holding talks with Qatar about them taking a stake in BNP in return for funding.

      To quote the Telegraph:

      “Other French banks are also talking to the wealthy Gulf state, according to the same report. BNP Paribas declined to comment.

      It all feels very 2008 – at the height of the banking crisis, Barclays secured funding from Qatar and Abu Dhabi while Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds had to take a hand-out from the Government.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8720479/Debt-crisis-live.html (9:20am post)

      See also the Slog post at http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/crash-2-shunned-by-beijing-bnp-paribas-asks-sarkozy-to-intervene-rushes-to-the-middle-east/

    2. The other suitably apt lines from Blackadder 4, which also makes me chuckle is:

      General Melchett: You look surprised, Blackadder.
      Captain Blackadder: I certainly am, sir. I didn’t realise we had any battle plans.
      General Melchett: Well, of course we have! How else do you think the battles are directed?
      Captain Blackadder: Our battles are directed, sir?
      General Melchett: Well, of course they are, Blackadder, directed according to the Grand Plan.
      Captain Blackadder: Would that be the plan to continue with total slaughter until everyone’s dead except Field Marshal Haig, Lady Haig and their tortoise, Alan?
      General Melchett: Great Scott! Even you know it!

  19. Hi David

    Slightly off topic but here is a ditty on the Blackadder theme I posted a while back on the Independent (inspired by your excellent blog!)

    Private Baldrick: Captain Blackadder, how did we get from a time when there wasn’t a recession to a time when there was a recession?

    Captain Blackadder: You mean “How did the recession start”?

    Lieutenant George: The recession started, Baldrick, because of the vile, lazy unemployed scroungers, the greedy public taking out debts which they could not repay and the nasty Labour Government spending more than it should have

    Captain Blackadder: Nonsense George, I’ve told you before to stop reading the “Daily Mail” and stick to “For King and Country”

    You see Baldrick, it came to be accepted that the only way to avoid a recession was to give away all democratic controls over banks so that they could flourish, free of restraint, and the market would self regulate, giving stability and growth to the economy. The really big clever banks set about developing a range of fantastic new products, designed by whizz kid maths PhD’s, which only a few people understood (unfortunately, not the not-so-clever banks who bought them). These not-so-clever banks used massive leverage to trade huge amounts of these products, and because the market is always right, no-one dared to ask any questions; anyway, how could there be a problem since all the banks, not just the really big clever ones, were making shed loads of money and, anyway, the products were given top ratings by “independent” ratings agencies, who surely had nothing to gain by distorting the valuations? Even the economists, who, it has to be said, were quite secretly pleased that, at last, their voodoo nonsense was being made respectable by the use of complex differential equations, proving it must be a true science, not the useless tripe it was always thought to be by those who lived in the real world. And, in any event, all the banks were audited by super-duper high-integrity accountancy firms who consistently found no cause for concern in the banks accounts, although for some reason which no-one could quite explain, these accountancy firms had recently tended to switch from their traditional high-personal- responsibility role to limited liability status, almost as if they anticipated a bit of flak in no-mans’ land and they may need the an extra escape route against the vile hun if a few awkward questions were asked later.

    You see Baldrick, that way, there could never be another recession

    Private Baldrick: But Captain, this is a type of recession?

    Captain Blackadder: Yes Baldrick, you see, there was a teensy flaw in the plan.

    Private Baldrick: What was that, Captain?

    Captain Blackadder: It was bollocks!

    1. I think the Greek situation may be less black and white than Golem’s piece paints it, at least if these (admittedly from last year) are anything to go by:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/07/greek-debt-crisis-jobs
      http://www.economist.com/blogs/charlemagne/2010/02/greeces_generous_pensions

      I don’t doubt for a minute that many ordinary Greeks will suffer badly from the cuts you outline, but it also seems that a chaotic system needed radical reform (whether it’s got the right reforms is another matter).

      High unemployment (1 in 7, apparently) and low pay seem to be the main problems: apparently new teachers start on 900 euros a month. But to quote the Guardian piece:

      ‘”Until now the only dream of nearly every Greek has been to get a state job,” says the author Nikos Dimou. “Because they knew that it was not only a job for life but involved little work.”

      Most civil servants reasoned that with average monthly salaries being no more than €1,000, the cushiness of state posts also allowed them to hold second jobs (policemen working for security firms, tax inspectors working as accountants, department heads running boutiques) which they invariably never declared. Such jobs account for Greece’s huge black economy conservatively estimated at over 30 percent.’

      – and:

      “Arcane legislation for special interest groups, including the armed forces and those who held hazardous jobs, meant that pensions could be had as early as 45. The daughters of deceased army officers could claim their father’s pension for a lifetime if they remained unmarried; a hairdresser working with “dangerous” chemicals could receive pensions by the age of 50; a policeman on the beat could leave his job all expenses paid at the age of 45.”

    2. Very good mebumu!

      With a clever sketch like this then surely we could educate the UK masses on the real causes of our economic woes.

      Not only do we have a failure of democracy in the UK, but also a failure of mainstream satire too!!

      1. Clarification on Golem’s point 3:

        “those retiring below the age of 55 will see a 40% cut in pensions above a 1,000 euro threshold.” (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15014495 )

        1,000 euros currently = £875.97 = £10,511.64 yearly.

        More generally, I think that with a system as full of loopholes as the Greek one seems to be, there will be those who have played it for all its worth and those who have lost out and will continue to do so. The 1200 euro limits Golem refers to in points 1 and 5, for instance, seem cruelly arbitrary: 1199 euros and you’re OK, 1201 and you feel the full brunt of the cuts.

        Perhaps there are some Greek readers of the blog who can shed further light on all this.

  20. Of course this austerity can’t possibly work. Greece could lay off the entire public sector and sell ALL its assets – it still wouldn’t be able to pay off the debts accumulated in the private sector and dumped on the public accounts. To quote Michael Hudson: ‘Debts that cannot be repaid, won’t be repaid’. But, at the end of the process the financial oligarchy will have a much more impoverished and compliant working class.

    This (originally published in Nov 1990) is worth reading, just to point out that this debased form of ‘capitalism’ has been gathering pace for a long time:

    Have the poor suckers of this world ever lived in an age that offered such entertainment? Costly, to be sure, and they are the ones who are going to pay for it, but at least they are getting to watch some wonderful burlesque–first the pirates of a fraudulent system of communism forced to scuttle their own ship, and then the pirates of a fraudulent system of capitalism beginning to do the same.

    So long as their focus was on Eastern Europe, our press and politicians couldn’t talk enough about “the triumph of capitalism and democracy.” But now that they begin reluctantly to concentrate on the piracy at home, they are–perhaps because so many of them are part of that piratical crew–understandably reluctant to admit the obvious: that our system is just as bogus and corrupt and irrelevant and defeated in its own way, offering neither the risks of true capitalism nor the safeguards of true democracy. Our system is a hoax.

    If anyone still had faith in the system, the savings and loan adventure surely must have brought him to his senses and to his knees. The gambling debt of $500 billion ($150 billion plus interest and other incidentals)–or will it be, as some economists predict, a trillion four?–that the S&L industry left with the taxpayers has prompted even that deadpan Tory, George Will, to remark in wonderment, “We seem to have a capitalism here in which profits are private and we socialize the losses. Why are we, in effect–if you’re big enough, if you’re a huge bank or a savings and loan–why, in effect, are we guaranteeing everything? … What I’m asking is isn’t there a way to reform the system so that the taxpayers don’t get stuck with what happens when you have deregulation and risk taking that goes wrong?”

    The answer to his question is: No, there is no way to reform the present system, because the system is owned and controlled by those who are ruining it. Voters, ordinary taxpayers, have nothing to say about it.

    Martin Mayer, a conservative economic historian, has seen his world crumble and become meaningless. The capitalism he set his watch by has stopped ticking. He finds the thrift mess almost unbelievable: “Players entered the game through a government charter and continued to play, however severe their losses, in violation of all capitalist principle–courtesy of a government that continued to insure their borrowings. This was not an accident: it was public policy.”

    When he talks about “players,” he makes it sound like customers at a casino. And that in fact is what it has become. Capitalism has become the Big Casino, with players guaranteed against loss, because in effect they have bought the house managers. That is public policy.

    Mayer predicts plaintively that “future sociologists…will study the irruption of criminality into what had been conservative, even beneficent, organizations….They will seek to learn why the fiduciary ties that had set the unspoken, self-dignifying rules of a competitive society had been so grievously weakened in the late years of the twentieth century.”

    But in fact, this has never been a competitive society, neither in the mythical “capitalist” commercial world nor in the even more mythical “democratic” world of politics. Big-big uncontrolled money has ruled both through special privileges, and the S&L disaster simply illustrates again what Mayer calls “the corruption that must ultimately infect any government where the costs of running for office are greater than those that can or will be borne by the relatively small community of the public-spirited.”

    Of course, this is nothing new; “democracy,” at least in modern times, has always been equated with the purchase of politicians by those with the money to do it. “Suppose you go to Washington and try to get at your government,” Woodrow Wilson said back in 1912 when he was running for President. “You will always find that while you are politely listened to, the men really consulted are the big men who have the biggest stakes–the big bankers, the big manufacturers, the big masters of commerce….Every time it has come to a critical question, these gentlemen have been yielded to, and their demands treated as the demands that should be followed as a matter of course. The government of the United States is a foster child of the special interests.” (He knew from experience, having capitulated to so many special interests himself.)

    In the 1980s that trend reached the point where financial contributions from ordinary voters were hardly even sought. In the House of Representatives, writes Brooks Jackson, Democratic members commonly received “more than half their re-election funds from PACs and much of the rest from lobbyists and business executives.” The Congressional banking committees, the grand colluders in this conspiracy, were inundated with money from sleazy financial institutions and sleazy real estate developers, and from the hundreds of sleazy, high-priced law firms and sleazy accountants and sleazy appraisers that laid the foundation for their dirty work. From S&L interests alone, members of Congress received $11 million on the record–probably twice that much off the record–in the Looting Decade.

    Robert Sherrill, ‘Suppose you go to Washington . . .’, The Nation, November 19, 1990

  21. Charles Wheeler,

    A really excellent comment. My only question is if you have something meaty, well thought out and considerable like this to say in future why not consider a guest post. They’re not painful. Ask Haweye. That way you get a larger audience and people have an easier time replying. Just a thought. Email me if you might be interested.

    1. Can’t take too much credit for Robert Sherrill’s prescience, but would just add these snippets from 1990 – sorry for taking up blog space, but it really does explode the myth that Greenspan and all couldn’t have seen it coming plus ca change?

      “Painful as the bailout cost will be, it is not nearly so painful and dangerous to the economic health of America as the shift in and concentration of the control of credit, which we are already beginning to see. Ten years ago there were about 4,500 S&Ls in the country. Now there are fewer than 3,000. By the time the bailout storm troops get through selling them off, the number is expected to be down around 1,500, with a corresponding drop in mortgage money. Most will have disappeared, via mergers, into super-S&Ls and superbanks whose social usefulness will be equivalent to supertankers like the Exxon Valdez. . . .

      In the past decade, nearly twice as many banks failed in Texas as did in the whole nation between 1943 and 1979. Nine of the ten largest Texas banks (which had 40 percent of their loans tied up in oil) went under. Nearly all of them were bought up by or merged with out-of-state banks . . .

      Ordinary people are, obviously, being screwed–in the name of “reform.” Whenever the money-masters of government carry out something “reformist,” we are in deep trouble. The disastrous S&L rule changes of the early 1980s were called “reforms.” Now the bailouts that concentrate wealth and credit are also called “reforms.” And the Bush Administration has other even more noxious “reforms” planned for the immediate future . . .

      Monopoly Capital

      The plan adds up to the complete deregulation of commercial banks. Since 1985, when Vice President Bush was head of a task force studying financial market restructuring, he has been a patsy for the banks, which have been lobbying and finagling with considerable success to (1) reduce the S&L industry to an insignificant source for government-backed home mortgages (that goal is in sight), (2) allow banks to enter the securities business (the Federal Reserve recently made the first ruling in that direction) and (3) let banks do just about any damn thing they want to do.

      The tainted S&Ls have provided the banks and the Administration with a wonderful rationale: The S&Ls are booed as the bad guys–ruffians, vandals, thieves–and the banks are patted and praised as the gentlemen–decorous, wellregulated (by comparison), sound, safe.

      In fact, commercial banks are anything but. Since the mid-1980s they have been lending with as much abandon and stupidity as the S&Ls, and with as little supervision from the Feds. The industry has been falling apart for at least five years (Seidman’s vaunted chairmanship of the F.D.I.C. notwithstanding).

      Only ten banks, with assets totaling $232 million, failed in 1980. Eight years later, 220 banks, with assets of $54 billion, either closed or were given emergency cash injections by the Federal Reserve. Bad management, bad luck, fraud and lousy supervision by Seidman’s cops all contributed. In 1986, with 1,400 of the nation’s 14,500 banks in serious trouble, Seidman admitted that half the problem banks hadn’t been examined in more than a year. “We’re spread very thin,” he said. “We don’t have enough people to catch the problems.”

      Things didn’t improve. Nor did thrifts have a corner on crooks. In 1987 the F.D.I.C. admitted that one-third of the banks that failed were brought down, at least in part, by insider dishonesty. The same year, with banks collapsing right and left, Stephen Aug reported on ABC Business World that “huge segments” of the commercial banking industry were “restructuring in what some say is a giant controlled bankruptcy organization.” And much of the emergency oxygen was being fed to the giants–Citicorp, Chase Manhattan, Bankers Trust, Manufacturers Hanover and Bank America.

      But most of the popular press, to the extent that it was writing about moneylenders’ problems at all, was concentrating on the S&Ls. Don Dixon’s prostitutes were much more entertaining than Chase Manhattan’s disappearing Third World loans. And they were indeed disappearing. By last year all the big banks mentioned above were writing off huge portions–some by as much as two-thirds–of their Third World loans, thus admitting they would never be repaid.

      In the past two years particularly, there was an orgy of bank gambling with leveraged buyouts and takeovers financed by junk bonds, and now the earth is beginning to shake. Indeed, the General Accounting Office has warned that seven of the nation’s ten largest banks plunged so deep into those risky loans that if even one of the highly leveraged companies should go bankrupt, an extremely dangerous chain reaction could result. Oceans of speculative commercial real estate loans made during the 1980s are also turning rancid.

      The percentage of banks losing money keeps climbing; by this summer it had passed 11 percent. The bigger they are, the wider their cracks. In late September Chase Manhattan, the nation’s second-largest bank, laid off 5,000 employees, cut its stock dividend by half and admitted a probable $625 million loss for the quarter. Chemical Banking Corporation, the holding company for the nation’s sixth-largest bank, was right behind, only its stock dividends were cut 63 percent. And then Citicorp, the nation’s largest bank, answered sick call with a 38 percent drop in earnings. Poisoned by lousy loans, the biggies up and down the East Coast were turning green. Will California banks, which have been playing Nathan Detroit for the developers’ floating crap game, be next? Many experts think so.

      The rot in commercial banking has been carefully covered up for years–just as the rot in the thrift industry was covered up. The duplicity is shared by bank owners and regulators. Writing two years ago about this trickery, Jerry Knight of The Washington Post told us, “For months, Seidman and Comptroller of the Currency Robert E. Clarke have insisted publicly that the problems of Texas banks are not serious enough to require any extraordinary government action. Behind the scenes, however, federal regulators have been bending the rules of banking to keep weak Texas financial institutions from going under and taking unusual steps to keep the public from learning how bad things are.”

      Sound like a replay of the S&L coverup? Stanford economist Brumbaugh, who was one of the first to discover the true condition of the S&Ls, sure thinks so. He says, “We are in the midst of the largest government cover-up of a financial scandal ever in the country’s history.”

      Just how big is the mess they’re trying to hide this time? Last year 200 banks failed; another 200 are expected to go under this year. That’s for starters. In those numbers are none of the monster banks that are “too big to fail”–that is, banks so big the government is afraid to let them collapse, lest they drag down the whole banking system. What shape are the monsters in?

      The scariest appraisal was given three months ago by Brumbaugh: “I believe that the following banks are very close to true insolvency…Chase, Chemical, Manufacturers Hanover, Bankers Trust and even Citibank and Bank of America…. In addition to that, there are 460 banks with $42 billion [in assets] that have had losses in each year since 1986. Those institutions are going to exhaust their net worth on an accounting basis this year. There are another $30 billion in assets at institutions that have had negative net income for the last two years.”

      By “true insolvency” Brumbaugh means that the government’s bookkeeping system is phony: “The accounting method that we use in this country covers up true market insolvency when these institutions get to the end of the rope, and that’s exactly what happened with the savings and loan crisis, and it’s happening all over again with commercial banks. And in my opinion, the total losses that are embedded in those banks that are insolvent…are so great that the bank insurance fund is not going to be able to handle it, and taxpayer dollars are going to be necessary…. In order to resolve the problem, the taxpayers are going to have to pay a large portion of the losses that are embedded in commercial banks.”

      What? Another bailout, and this time one that will make the S&L bailout seem trivial? No, no, no, Seidman sputtered furiously (he and Brumbaugh were facing each other on Nightline). Brumbaugh, he said, was being “irresponsible.” He was “shouting fire in a crowded theater.” He was launching “a typical professorial-type attack.” Brumbaugh’s charges were “preposterous.”

      But, as evidence showed in the next few weeks, Brumbaugh’s charges were not at all preposterous. In early September Charles Bowsher, who as Comptroller General heads the General Accounting Office, the agency that does audits and investigations for Congress, gave the chilling news: His investigators had discovered that whereas the F.D.I.C. claimed to have $13.2 billion on hand to help failing banks (an inadequate amount, even if it had been accurate), in fact, “if we had a more realistic” accounting practice, it might turn out that the fund was sucking air. Whatever the right figures were, he said, “not since it was born in the Great Depression has the federal system of deposit insurance for commercial banks faced such a period of danger as it does today.”

      Once again Seidman rushed in to contradict the evidence, sounding very much like the cheerful Danny Wall of 1988: “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the fund will be able to meet its obligations.” Is he bothered by the fact that more banks have failed in the past two years than in any comparable time since the Depression, and that these failures have reduced the insurance fund by 40 percent? Oh dear no. “I don’t think it’s a question of crisis and panic,” he told reporters after a Congressional hearing. “It’s a sign of increased stress.”

      Back to the 1920s

      Nevertheless, though it is obvious that the tottering commercial banking world needs tighter regulations than ever, the industry and the Administration push on pell-mell for deregulation. In fact, the dismal condition of the industry is being used by the deregulating claque as their strongest, and weirdest, argument. Just as St. Germain, Garn, Pratt and Wall argued that the best way to help zombie thrifts recover was to remove all regulations so that they could “grow out” of their problems, now Bush, Fed chair Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady, Seidman and others demand that the government dismantle what Seidman calls the “archaic laws” that for many years have controlled commercial banking. They, too, want to “grow out” of their perilous condition. What these laws do is protect the banking industry from its worst instincts by insisting that banks remain banks, and not become gamblers, hucksters and hustlers in other lines as well.

      The deregulators will probably make their big power-play next spring, when, under mandate from Congress, the Treasury Department must come up with its “reform” plans for the banks. You can expect the other side to try to sell some blind horses to us, like offering to swap a lower ceiling on deposit insurance for wholesale abandonment of regulations–as if the rotters wouldn’t be just as happy engaging in risky activity under a lower ceiling as they have been gambling under the present one. If there is a double agent to be on guard against, it will be Donald Riegle, chair of the Senate Banking Committee. He and the moneylenders are–could any old saw be more apt?–thick as thieves. Riegle is recorded as receiving $200,900 from S&L officials and PACs between January 1981 and May 1990–second only to California’s Senator Pete Wilson ($243,334). Now that S&L money is seen to be tainted, Riegle has scrambled to redeem his reputation by returning $120,000 of it. But the commercial banks have stuffed his pockets too, and there is no record of his having returned any of that money.

      Recently Greenspan–that trustworthy fellow who guaranteed the morality of Keating and was one of the chief boosters of junk-bond purchases by S&Ls–guided his Fed colleagues into a disastrous decision. They ruled that J.P. Morgan (Morgan Guaranty Trust) could trade and sell corporate stocks. With this cloven hoof in the door, other banks will follow, and that will be the death of the Glass-Steagall Act, which Congress passed in 1933 to separate commercial banks from investment banks and thereby control some of the outlawry that had caused thousands of banks to fail. Next they will probably be targeting the Bank Holding Act of 1956, which was intended to keep banking out of commerce, and the McFadden Act, which limits interstate banking.

      What Greenspan, Seidman and their gang say to critics is, Oh, we want banks to be banks, too, but we want them to be universal banks. Which can be translated to mean uncontrolled banks, banks completely unfettered by regulations that restrict their operations–in short, pretty much a return to the reckless and lawless 1920s and early 1930s, which, if measured by the drama and excitement of collapsing financial structures, had it all over the 1980s.

      Brumbaugh, for one, is dumbfounded by what he’s seeing. “The administration and Congress just don’t want to acknowledge the problem,” he says with a sigh. “This is déjà vu all over again. You can’t believe it’s happening, but there it is.”

        1. Sorry David, meant to add that in the last post:
          http://www.thenation.com/article/sls-big-banks-and-other-triumphs-capitalism?page=full

          Although it’s dated 2008, the original I have lists it as first published November 19 1990 – soon after the S&L debacle – which could be seen as earlier tremors of our current financial earthquake.

          But, instead of learning the lessons Greenspan et al went ahead with the plan to deregulate – using the S&L crisis as a rationale to give the rest of the banking sector its head!

  22. Neil,

    I take your points about the chaotic and run out of control aspects of Greek civil society. And of course such abuse will eventually lead to its own demise. As it should! No argument there. I just object to the fact that an even more out of control systemic abuse amoung the wealthy and among the coroporations avoiding almost all taxes, has not been curbed at all. EVeryone was abusing. Only the poor get hammered. That was my intended target.

  23. I have a song that is an edited version of this cool Mormon dude talking about secret combinations, or conspiracies.

    http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/9088550

    What is a conspiracy?

    It’s a group of people, more than one person, they make a deal or make a plan to do something illegal, unlawful.

    That’s loads of people as far as I can see.

    You have to wonder what their definition of free market is too. Free market for who?

    Makes more sense if their definition is a free market for them.

    If as a child our parents registered us with the corporation that is the government and that government now acts as The Executor of our estate, of our equity and we are an asset of that corporation.

    We have no say in anything. We get to vote for a new director of UK plc. Rekon that means we can tell the director what to do? Or the latest director will run UK plc any different?

    If everything is a contract and in a contract you have to have two willing parties what happens when you don’t want to contract? You can’t be bullied into a contract as it’s not binding unless both parties are willing.

    So what would happen if we all informed UK plc that we were never a willing party in this contract with government and the only laws that apply are things like gravity.

    That your statutes only apply to public servants, employees of government. I don’t work for you and never had. If you do want to contract with me it will be on my terms only and I charge £1,000,000 per hour. You have 21 days to reply to this NOTICE.

    Wonder what they’d do if we all did that?

    Money is a promissory note, I promise to pay.

    Rekon you could pay your council tax by just writing it out on paper, I promise to pay? That is if you want to contract with government, you don’t have too. It’s like that classic the police say when they arrest you, “You are not obliged to say anything”

    So when they say “What’s your name?”

    Am I obliged to answer your question? Any of them? Ever?

    Not in the slightest. Do you have the gravitas of a free human spirit to get locked up for a few hours?

    That’s the crux of all of this. When it comes down to it do you have the balls to lose your freedom to prove your free. Free of banks that form fake contracts with unsuspecting parties. What’s that saying about lack of knowlegde of law?

    Ignorance of the law does not justify an act, since every person is presumed to know the law (that’s how they screw us over).

    That’s not contract law, you need two willling parties with full disclosure but banks do not do that, one reason being they don’t loan you money. You create it when you sign the loan agreement. So all banks debts with people are void if you have the balls to take them on and are prepared to lose your slave freedom. It seems though you can gain so much more, if your prepared to be bullied by government that enforces itself with violence.

    Imagine taking government to court. No protesting or petitions, just nailing them because we make everything happen. It’s our unlimited credit that the banks leverage, they should pay us for taking out loans. If we can become the Executor of our own estate and get rid of their presumptions just to prove we are in the driving seat we can tell them what to do.

    That’s fascinating. That’s what should be taught in school. They are public servants after all. But we need to take the master role and handle our business. If we don’t all this we are witnessing will continue.

    Say it after me. No Contract. I can’t hear you. ok with gusto now.

    Thats more like it 😀

  24. The world is screaming sense. Only the fools intent on their Monopoly profits and surreal gains aren’t listening.

    Question is are they ignoring it because they are fools or devoid of remorse or compassion because they’re psychopaths. Have the dogs of war chosen to dress bespoke and pinstripe?

    1. Two points from someone who’s just returned from Crete for a holiday and had talked to the locals:

      1. He said Piraeus harbour (the largest in Europe) has been sold off;

      2. With military service still in operation, Greeks know how to handle guns if necessary.

      I have no way of verifying these points, but thought them worth mentioning. Perhaps someone can confirm or deny them.

  25. The best thing would be for ALL countries of the world to default and tell the bankers to **** off!
    Then we should set about reconstructing the world currency system and ensure that such mega-fraud never happens again.

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